RMAN4443
8 years ago

Mystery Cigar #2
Pre-light...a medium, brown, single cap robusto. Touch of hay in the smell and a little barnyard (not a bad barnyard smell). Used the v-cut on this one. Only one cut and it seemed to allow enough air through.

1/3....It lit fairly easy and the draw was not as light as cigar #1 but was still easy enough. I am immediately hit by pepper. Not a super strong hit but I can definitely taste it right away. It did have a slightly bitter after taste that faded quickly and was only there in the first half inch to an inch. Besides the pepper, which mellowed out, I am getting spice. It definitely burned the lips and tongue. Ash didn't get to an inch before it fell off. It was slightly windy and little pieces of ash were flying all over the place. Briefly went out, not sure why...I was sticking with it.

2/3.....I like the flavor. I can't seem to describe a taste involved. Maybe more nostalgic than that of "leather" "chocolate". It just flashed me back to early days of smoking. It was a "comfortable smoke". I think I am catching a little sweetness coming through and the pepper and spice have already left.

3/3.....unfortunately, I got hit with an errand that I couldn't talk my way out of. So I left about a third of the cigar to die out. I do wish that I could have smoked it till the end.

Overall, I liked the cigar. It wasn't a punch in the face pepper or spice. It wasn't overly sweet when it hit that taste. It just gave a nice little touch of flavor on a few different levels and left me thinking about smokes that I have had over the years.

I would smoke it again.

My guess is that this is the yard gar. I seem to have smoked more yard gars in my years than I have smoking the good ones. I still struggle with the "saving the good ones for special occasions mental illness".

Thanks Yaro.

David.

stinger88 wrote:


Yaro sent to me in this Mystery pass.......Dave(JustRelax) sent to you,Stinger

I'm gonna smoke #2 and review tonight Yaro.......Hopefully I'll get to #3 tommorrow🇨🇮
abjd14
8 years ago
My guess (originally I listed possible cigar names but deleted them.in fear of.being terribly off) I choose the order merely.based off the ones i liked the best to least. Overall I would smoke all of these again and finish them. Thanks Tom!!

Cigar #1 high end
Cigar #2 yard gar
Cigar #3 mid level



First review of Cigar #2

Grabbed this one bc it was the largest and had plenty of time to smoke on the 55 degree day after a 2 day snow storm. At first glance I will just assume it is the budget stick. Nice tight roll some large veins, very toothy but wrapper seems very thin. After a straight cut the ends seem to have lots of large veins/sticks idk what to call them but consistent with a lower budget stick.

Vitola: Toro
Color: claro
Cold draw: sweet with a little earth, cedar and raisen. A slighty tight draw so I opened it up. I like a really loose draw so almost everything I smoke is too tight.

Hit it with the torch and immediately love the flavors coming out. Great smoke output, good burn not a lot of flavor yet but unique. The flavor lingers after each puff.

1st third: mild to medium body. Subtle tobacco flavors, faint spice, hay. Not the usual flavor profile I smoke but very enjoyable so far. Getting thru the 1st third the burn is perfect beautiful white ash. (Will do the sand test with the ash after it drops)
Cool ash is Sandy so shouldn't be a cuban

2nd Third: lots of earthy/woody flavor. Still mild/medium. A little bit of pepper and clove on the retrohale. I might be smoking a little fast because I do enjoy the cigar and hoping it develops a little more flavor but the fast smoking is making it slightly harsh.
Still a perfect burn line.

3rd Third: moved up to medium body getting more pepper, all pepper. Quick drop off of pepper back to more mild earthy tones. This is turning to be a great afternoon smoke with a coffee.

Overall: I would be surprised if this was the high end smoke. This is for sure low to mid level. I usually prefer the full body cigars but I would def. Keep 5vers of these around if they come at good prices. Haven't got a clue as to what brand this might be.

Second review cigar #1

11:22 am
50 degrees and sunny
32 coffee pairing
4.25x52 dark and shimmery cigar but not oily. Foot and straightcut.end has some nice looking filler with very few stems. Great looking construction, firm cigar and firm draw but not tight.

1st third: first few puffs, rich flavors of cocoa, leather, cedar. Starting out as a medium body. Thru the end of this third all the same flavors ash remains but not a tight ash suggests mid to low cigar. I have a strange feeling this is the same Monte medio noche I sent for Tampas blind review last year

2nd third: smooth creamy smoke output. No more sweet notes of cocoa. More doni ate is the cedar and leather and a small touch of spice on the back end. Def. Don't believe this is the low end as the flavor profile keeps developing. Leather has gone away and this has developed into just smooth creamy smoke.

3rd Third: pepper is really amping up. This is how I like a cigar to develop. Starts with lots of flavors moves to medium with dominate flavors and then nub it all the way down with strong peppery nicotine kick but still smooth and no harshness especially since I smoke fast. Finished this re view 20mims ago and still smoking the nub. I'm leaning to the high end.

My guess it's the high end smoke.

Third Review of Cigar #3

5.25x46 paired with a root beer, punch cut
Appearance beautiful wrapper small to no veins triple cap that goes down about 1/4 in.
Cold draw: very loose sweet on the lips no distinguishing flavors or aromas yet

1st Third: First Few Puffs and I am reminded of something I have defonetlt had.before. not many but have had. Great smoke output again, some sweetness, floral notes and hints of citrus on back of the tongue. Initial thoughts are some boutique cigar warped/crown heads.

2nd Third: ash still intack, even burn but the filler is burning faster than the wrapper (just learned this happens when the wrapper isn't aged long enough) flavors are mellowing out a bit. Would.call this mild to more medium still sweet with some raisen/currants touch of honey.

3rd Third: sweetness fading out and paper and earth building up.






ypetryna
8 years ago
package from stinger includes local beer and beer coozie that is hanging out in the fridge, hot sauce that looks intense and some solid looking smokes (will update later)

the unbanded roster include a lancero, a torpedo and smoke #3

Torpedo 6" x 50/52 rg darker wrapper, but unsure if a maduro

prelight - firm roll, oily, solid construction has an excellent feel in the hand. liga 9 is what it is reminding me of based off appearance and initial aroma. angled cut with guillotine cutter. no beverage while walking the pupper. this is going to be oily as many pre light puffs are staring to have the oil come off the wrapper.

1st 3rd - this thing is very earthy and the smoke is almost chewy. its got a lot of body to it. it is surprisingly not very intense or in your face thou. the ash lasted a little until i knocked it off the cigar reaching cross body. fail. i try a retrohale and it is heavy black pepper. close enough to almost entice a sneeze. small burn issues, but i would blame it on the windy walk condition. there are faint tastes espresso and maybe bitter dark chocolate.

2nd - there is a side of cigar that is slowing down, which turnund out to be from a vien a split. the cigar is trying to correct its self, and for the most part it is. needed one touch up. this was the also the time i notice a very bitter taste that stopped me mid puff. total flavor change, if only for a puff. the earthiness is still my most noticeable taste with pepper on the retrohale.

final
not much change in flavor profile. the pepper is the still the most noticeable flavor on the retrohale. the strength is now ramping up to the high range of me enjoyment. i slow down the smoking in case that is the reason, but there is little effect on it. it continues to increase, and once my lips and mouth begin to tingle, i abandon the smoke with a little over an inch left.


overall
this was a solid smoke. to me it seemed one dimensional, with the same taste remaining. strength wise it seemed a medium to maybe med. full that could have ramped up full at the end when i put it down. the construction was solid, and needed little baby sitting. reminded me of an undercrown/rp edge/AB (more of a 2nd i bought on cbid that didnt disclose the blend but i think a tempus)

i will reserve judgement to which category i thought it was until after i smoke the other two.

thanks stinnger, did not disappoint, but i should wait for better weather on the next 2
ypetryna
8 years ago

Yaro sent to me in this Mystery pass.......Dave(JustRelax) sent to you,Stinger

I'm gonna smoke #2 and review tonight Yaro.......Hopefully I'll get to #3 tommorrow🇨🇮

RMAN4443 wrote:



smoke in any order man, I just randomly numbered
RMAN4443
8 years ago

smoke in any order man, I just randomly numbered

ypetryna wrote:


lol, just easier if I go 1,2,3........easier for me if I lose count8-[
Just Relax
8 years ago
Rick I think stinger was thanking yaro for the saying he quoted.

After cleaning out from 8 inches of snow today it has stopped and I'm going to fire up # 3 from Shaun. Just poured a johnie black to settle down with it.
stinger88
8 years ago
David (Just Relax),
I did thank the wrong person. Thank YOU for the cigar. My brain has been fried!! I was doing some hardcore studying for my PMP test retake that I took today.



I passed!!!!!

David (one of the many Davids).
NWStogie
8 years ago
stinger88
8 years ago
Thanks. That test was a bear!!!
NWStogie
8 years ago
The Wish

A project manager, a software developer, and a hardware engineer are in Miami for three weeks helping out on a project.

About midweek, they decide to take a lunchtime walk up and down the beach. Halfway up the beach, they come across a lamp. As they rub the lamp, a genie appears and says, I will grant each of you one wish.

The hardware engineer says, I want to spend the rest of my life living in a huge mansion with no money worries. The genie grants his wish.

The software developer says, I would like to spend the rest of my life living on a yacht cruising the Caribbean with no money worries. The genie grants his wish.

Then it is the project manager's turn. And what would your wish be? Asked the genie.

I want them both back after lunch replies the project manager.
stinger88
8 years ago
That is pretty funny.
tamapatom
8 years ago

My guess (originally I listed possible cigar names but deleted them.in fear of.being terribly off) I choose the order merely.based off the ones i liked the best to least. Overall I would smoke all of these again and finish them. Thanks Tom!!

Cigar #1 high end
Cigar #2 yard gar
Cigar #3 mid level



First review of Cigar #2

Grabbed this one bc it was the largest and had plenty of time to smoke on the 55 degree day after a 2 day snow storm. At first glance I will just assume it is the budget stick. Nice tight roll some large veins, very toothy but wrapper seems very thin. After a straight cut the ends seem to have lots of large veins/sticks idk what to call them but consistent with a lower budget stick.

Vitola: Toro
Color: claro
Cold draw: sweet with a little earth, cedar and raisen. A slighty tight draw so I opened it up. I like a really loose draw so almost everything I smoke is too tight.

Hit it with the torch and immediately love the flavors coming out. Great smoke output, good burn not a lot of flavor yet but unique. The flavor lingers after each puff.

1st third: mild to medium body. Subtle tobacco flavors, faint spice, hay. Not the usual flavor profile I smoke but very enjoyable so far. Getting thru the 1st third the burn is perfect beautiful white ash. (Will do the sand test with the ash after it drops)
Cool ash is Sandy so shouldn't be a cuban

2nd Third: lots of earthy/woody flavor. Still mild/medium. A little bit of pepper and clove on the retrohale. I might be smoking a little fast because I do enjoy the cigar and hoping it develops a little more flavor but the fast smoking is making it slightly harsh.
Still a perfect burn line.

3rd Third: moved up to medium body getting more pepper, all pepper. Quick drop off of pepper back to more mild earthy tones. This is turning to be a great afternoon smoke with a coffee.

Overall: I would be surprised if this was the high end smoke. This is for sure low to mid level. I usually prefer the full body cigars but I would def. Keep 5vers of these around if they come at good prices. Haven't got a clue as to what brand this might be.

Second review cigar #1

11:22 am
50 degrees and sunny
32 coffee pairing
4.25x52 dark and shimmery cigar but not oily. Foot and straightcut.end has some nice looking filler with very few stems. Great looking construction, firm cigar and firm draw but not tight.

1st third: first few puffs, rich flavors of cocoa, leather, cedar. Starting out as a medium body. Thru the end of this third all the same flavors ash remains but not a tight ash suggests mid to low cigar. I have a strange feeling this is the same Monte medio noche I sent for Tampas blind review last year

2nd third: smooth creamy smoke output. No more sweet notes of cocoa. More doni ate is the cedar and leather and a small touch of spice on the back end. Def. Don't believe this is the low end as the flavor profile keeps developing. Leather has gone away and this has developed into just smooth creamy smoke.

3rd Third: pepper is really amping up. This is how I like a cigar to develop. Starts with lots of flavors moves to medium with dominate flavors and then nub it all the way down with strong peppery nicotine kick but still smooth and no harshness especially since I smoke fast. Finished this re view 20mims ago and still smoking the nub. I'm leaning to the high end.

My guess it's the high end smoke.

Third Review of Cigar #3

5.25x46 paired with a root beer, punch cut
Appearance beautiful wrapper small to no veins triple cap that goes down about 1/4 in.
Cold draw: very loose sweet on the lips no distinguishing flavors or aromas yet

1st Third: First Few Puffs and I am reminded of something I have defonetlt had.before. not many but have had. Great smoke output again, some sweetness, floral notes and hints of citrus on back of the tongue. Initial thoughts are some boutique cigar warped/crown heads.

2nd Third: ash still intack, even burn but the filler is burning faster than the wrapper (just learned this happens when the wrapper isn't aged long enough) flavors are mellowing out a bit. Would.call this mild to more medium still sweet with some raisen/currants touch of honey.

3rd Third: sweetness fading out and paper and earth building up.






abjd14 wrote:


So here is out it laid out. I numbered them 1,2,3 so I could remember what I sent.

#1 High end - First Public release of Newman Black Diamond.......been resting for over a year.

#2 Middle - Crowned Heads Hedley Grange - also about a year in humi.

#3 low end- I don't treat this one like a yard gar........ Curivari Buenaventura BV 500 barely under the $5 wire.........actually my favorite of the lot as I am not a big nic fan but love a flavorful smoke.

Good job on reviews and I like seeing all at once........yours coming soon.

Making your own cuban? Too ambitious for me as it is easier to buy around here. I just butter and toast it. Tampa cuban? in addition glazed ham and swiss cheese. Gotta have Genoa Salami, the right Pork and pickle - the often missing ingredients in fakes.....and of course the bread is often fake. Mustard NO MAYO. No lettuce tomato. Hot pressed is the best but a variation on original.
Just Relax
8 years ago

David (Just Relax),
I did thank the wrong person. Thank YOU for the cigar. My brain has been fried!! I was doing some hardcore studying for my PMP test retake that I took today.



I passed!!!!!

David (one of the many Davids).

stinger88 wrote:




Ah ok. No worries. Congratulations on passing the test!
Just Relax
8 years ago
So after coming in the house proud of cleaning up 8" of snow and celebrate with a cigar my wife went out to measure and point out it was only a bit over 6" so I stand corrected.

Now on to the review. I guess the chocolate porter that Shaun included with the package had me craving chocolate and I picked cigar #3 robusto based on the initial smell of chocolate that was radiating from it. I strongly considered popping the top on that to pair with it but didn't want that to influence the result of the review so I went with my tried and true Johnnie Black. This cigar felt dense and leathery to go along with the predominant cocoa scent.

Upon cutting the draw was easy, not too light, just right really. The prelight draw gave the taste of black licorice.

1/3 - After lighting my first impression was a nice mellow blend of spices like a good steak marinade. Taking a sip of my scotch doesn't quite pair well and with the flavor I'm getting and am wishing I had a nice Merlot ready that I didn't have to dig for. The smoke is a nice white and the ash is light gray with very fine grain lines. Burn is razor sharp. So far I'm very impressed and am thinking this is a solid mid range cigar. The spice is putting a nice tingle on the tip of my tongue. In the back of my mind I'm thinking this is similar an LP Dirty Rat but am confused as it is not putting out as much smoke as I remember those producing.

2/3 - Ash is still sticking strong and came off with a light tap at the 2" mark. Could have went a bit longer but was afraid it'd fall in my lap if I pushed it. The flavor has moved on to my lips and has gained a bit of intensity with the notes of black licorice/cocoa returning. It is still staying mellow and smooth in the medium/full profile. Ash fell off at about 1" this time. I noticed when I hit the licorice notes the ash had lightened slightly and it is darkening a bit and the array of spice is hitting my gums now. I'm enjoying this dense smoke and think I might need a toothpick to clean my teeth out when finished.

3/3 - I'm really enjoying this cigar and am disappointed I'm already almost done. Time is passing so quickly that I'm afraid I've been hot boxing it. Checked time and 40 mins in so right on schedule for an hour. It is still burning cool and razor sharp. I've had no touch ups or relights. A blemish in the burn appeared but I let it go and it quickly corrected itself. The nicotine is starting to kick in a bit and am feeling it. The ash is lighter and I'm picking up more of the black licorice that is staying now. The cocoa taste isn't there but that is the smell that is radiating from it. A sip of the scotch brings the spice back and I think the cigar actually enhanced the flavor of the drink. It tastes more like a rye.

I nubbed this until the burn line which was still perfect was hitting my fingers. This was a very fun experience and I am trying to stay subjective but as good as it was and the quality of the construction has me thinking this was the high end cigar. I still can't shake the similarities that I'm remembering and I think I just smoked a Liga Privida. I thought a few times about checking to see if they made one in the size I smoked but didn't want to influence my review if they did by reading the description.

Upon looking this morning and the profile that I experienced I'm going to take a guess and say this was an LP#9 but in all likelihood my noobiness will shine through and I'll be dead wrong.

Thanks Shaun this was a very enjoyable cigar. This was a very fun experience as well and was my first blind review.



RMAN4443
8 years ago
Mystery Cigar review #2........paired with A&W Rootbeer
4.78 x 50
very smooth and well constructed....triple cap, firm and well packed, nice solid cigar
PLA-sweet hay........punchcut....PLD-smooth and easy......PL Flavors-sweet hay and mild white pepper
Toasted foot and lights up easily......Initial draw is open and easy, lots of smoke......Flavors at light up are sweet spice with a lemon(citrus) tang to it

1/3: Lots of smoke, lemon/white pepper.....retrohale is stronger on the spice.....having a hard time pinpointing this flavor, but I like it.....maybe cinnamon?
Solid grey ash, holds for 1.5 inches until I tap it off

2/3:Flavor has a deeper, richer sweetness....maybe molasses, the pepper has faded but not quite gone-seems to last longer on the tongue....
cedar pops in for a quick visit but then it's gone.....flavors are really fleeting and changing......very nice

3/3:Spicyness is ramping up....I can feel the strength ramping up, mild nicotine tingle on the tongue......had to relight(my fault)....About an hour and 45 minute smoke
Smoked to a half inch nub......the spicy molasses flavors lasted until I let it die.....This was a great smoke.....probably one of the best cigars I've had the pleasure of smoking
I really loved this smoke......I'm gonna say this is the high end cigar.....everything about it says QUALITY....
I'd like to say I'm going to stock up on these, but fear of the unknown(price point) will keep me from doing so
Thanks for this Yaro......I'm hoping this is the yard gar so I can enjoy more of these, but in my mind I know better
stinger88
8 years ago
Mystery Cigar #3

Just to start.....this was a very good cigar!!!!
Pre-light- rich, brown torpedo. Construction looks pretty good except I left it in the baggie for a little over a week before smoking it. The foot had some very minor cracking. Nice earthy smell. Went with a nice clean straight cut. Easy but not too easy draw.

1/3 slightly bitter on initial light but went away after a few puffs. Immediately I got a light dark chocolate taste which stayed with it for all of the first and most of the second third. It was a smooth cigar that had a mild flavor but was definitely a med-full strength cigar. Have I said that I really liked this cigar?

2/3 flavor still right in my wheelhouse. I am horrible at describing what I taste but it is just perfect tasting to me. A few times the cigar will give me a sign like it is about to go out but it just needed a little rotation and a bite(yeah I know that sounds bad) and it was back to fine.

3/3 I numbed it. Took it to almost burning my fingers.

Straight to the summary. Initially when I looked at it I thought it might be a Padron 6000. I knew it wasn't a Monte #2 because I have smoked a few of those and they have a slightly different look. After the first ten minutes I knew it wasn't the Padron. However, I would put some serious money on this being a Cuban. So, I believe it to be the High end and Cuban.

Just Relax/David, that was a great smoke that I will have to find more of.

Thank you for another great Spring Blind review.

I will wait until tomorrow to open the envelope.

David.
NWStogie
8 years ago
Great reviews, gents! I’m looking forward to the reveals. More cigars for me to find/smoke/hoard.
Just Relax
8 years ago
David,

I'm glad #3 hit the spot. It is in my top 5 cigars I've smoked and probably my favorite non-unicorn.

You guessed all 3 correctly on price point.

#1 - Medium - EP Carrillo La Historia E3. I wish it'd done more for you during the tasting.

#2 - Low - Oliveros Sun Grown Reserve. I really enjoy this cigar for a yard gar. I wish I could send you another so you could finish but that was my last one.

#3 - High - Diplomaticos #2. You'd have won your bet. My favorite Cuban in the under $15 range I've had.



shaun341
8 years ago

So after coming in the house proud of cleaning up 8" of snow and celebrate with a cigar my wife went out to measure and point out it was only a bit over 6" so I stand corrected.

Now on to the review. I guess the chocolate porter that Shaun included with the package had me craving chocolate and I picked cigar #3 robusto based on the initial smell of chocolate that was radiating from it. I strongly considered popping the top on that to pair with it but didn't want that to influence the result of the review so I went with my tried and true Johnnie Black. This cigar felt dense and leathery to go along with the predominant cocoa scent.

Upon cutting the draw was easy, not too light, just right really. The prelight draw gave the taste of black licorice.

1/3 - After lighting my first impression was a nice mellow blend of spices like a good steak marinade. Taking a sip of my scotch doesn't quite pair well and with the flavor I'm getting and am wishing I had a nice Merlot ready that I didn't have to dig for. The smoke is a nice white and the ash is light gray with very fine grain lines. Burn is razor sharp. So far I'm very impressed and am thinking this is a solid mid range cigar. The spice is putting a nice tingle on the tip of my tongue. In the back of my mind I'm thinking this is similar an LP Dirty Rat but am confused as it is not putting out as much smoke as I remember those producing.

2/3 - Ash is still sticking strong and came off with a light tap at the 2" mark. Could have went a bit longer but was afraid it'd fall in my lap if I pushed it. The flavor has moved on to my lips and has gained a bit of intensity with the notes of black licorice/cocoa returning. It is still staying mellow and smooth in the medium/full profile. Ash fell off at about 1" this time. I noticed when I hit the licorice notes the ash had lightened slightly and it is darkening a bit and the array of spice is hitting my gums now. I'm enjoying this dense smoke and think I might need a toothpick to clean my teeth out when finished.

3/3 - I'm really enjoying this cigar and am disappointed I'm already almost done. Time is passing so quickly that I'm afraid I've been hot boxing it. Checked time and 40 mins in so right on schedule for an hour. It is still burning cool and razor sharp. I've had no touch ups or relights. A blemish in the burn appeared but I let it go and it quickly corrected itself. The nicotine is starting to kick in a bit and am feeling it. The ash is lighter and I'm picking up more of the black licorice that is staying now. The cocoa taste isn't there but that is the smell that is radiating from it. A sip of the scotch brings the spice back and I think the cigar actually enhanced the flavor of the drink. It tastes more like a rye.

I nubbed this until the burn line which was still perfect was hitting my fingers. This was a very fun experience and I am trying to stay subjective but as good as it was and the quality of the construction has me thinking this was the high end cigar. I still can't shake the similarities that I'm remembering and I think I just smoked a Liga Privida. I thought a few times about checking to see if they made one in the size I smoked but didn't want to influence my review if they did by reading the description.

Upon looking this morning and the profile that I experienced I'm going to take a guess and say this was an LP#9 but in all likelihood my noobiness will shine through and I'll be dead wrong.

Thanks Shaun this was a very enjoyable cigar. This was a very fun experience as well and was my first blind review.



Just Relax wrote:



That was a fun review to read, I will keep from giving hints until you finish all of the reviews to not influence the experience in any way.


Been busy lately and have finished two of my review cigars but not posted it yet, might wait until weekend and just post all three at once.
shaun341
8 years ago

David,

I'm glad #3 hit the spot. It is in my top 5 cigars I've smoked and probably my favorite non-unicorn.

You guessed all 3 correctly on price point.

#1 - Medium - EP Carrillo La Historia E3. I wish it'd done more for you during the tasting.

#2 - Low - Oliveros Sun Grown Reserve. I really enjoy this cigar for a yard gar. I wish I could send you another so you could finish but that was my last one.

#3 - High - Diplomaticos #2. You'd have won your bet. My favorite Cuban in the under $15 range I've had.



Just Relax wrote:




Dips are a favorite of mine and have been out of stock for awhile now too. Stinger was close with the Monte 2. I hear that Dips were Montes that had lighter wrapper colors, not sure if it is true or not but for some reason that wrapper color makes a difference to my taste. Love Dip #2s but not a fan of Monte #2s.
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