Just Relax
8 years ago
Cornhole is like horseshoes. Corn hole-ing a cigar is the back door lewinski and not recommended with buddies.

Just finished cigar #1. I think I was wrong on #3. Review coming tomorrow.
Just Relax
8 years ago
Cigar #1 Triple cap - Toro, maybe double robusto? 6x52/4

Prelight - creamy dessert/woody. Punched draw was loose with a hearty woody flavor. Starting with a sprite and will pour something after I get going this time.

1/3 - Getting cedar, trying to convince myself it's Cuban but the large size is confusing me and it's not like any I've ever had. Ash is white and the burn is wavy but staying even. Decided I think the Stout that Shaun included in the trade would be a good match, but I think anything would have been a good match with this cigar. Shaun that beer was right in the sweet spot for me. Excellent choice. This cigar is very woody and rugged seems to be rough around the edges. Burn is starting to get uneven but I'm letting it go for now.

2/3 - I'm really enjoying this cigar. The ruggedness has seemed to settle down and has mellowed out. Flavor I'm getting is more of a mild wood chip used for smoking before lighting them. I've decided the flavor profile is likely on the strong side of medium. This woody flavor is something I know I haven't experienced to compare to. Ash fell of at two inches. There is no taper on the cherry, burn is level with the middle staying with the diameter. I'm intrigued because I've made my mind up this is Cuban and in my inexperience I could be smoking something really special or a fantastic "budget" house blend. I've decided I'm just going to enjoy it and stop sleuthing.

3/3 - Flavor has shifted a bit more to a buttery cream dessert woody. I had finished the stout and with the cigar becoming a bit creamy popped open a bottle of rhubarb wine. Another good pairing. Ash fell off at 1.5 and had to retouch. The bite is picking up. This just became excellent. The flavor changes have been subtle and complex. I'm pretty sure I've just smoked the high end and I'm doubting regardless of what it cost I'm am going to be able to go out and buy it as I think this has some good age on it.


Great choices Shaun. Each one was very different. I think after smoking the order is the same as when I pulled them out and compared before smoking any.

Cigar #1 - High end aged Cuban

Cigar #2 - Low end mellow yard gar

Cigar #3 - Medium end that likely only qualified due to using the box price on sale.

I also think my guesses are all wrong and I have no idea what any of them are. Can't wait to hear the results.
abjd14
8 years ago
Very fun thread/event glad we were able to do it again. At first I was a little disappointed getting the same person as last year and then again when I found out that we were sending to each other. But after the fact I think I found it a little more fun sending back and forth to the same person rather than sending down the list and getting from above. Sorry if none of that made sense.

So, think I would be cool next time if everyone wad split up into pairs and jist exchanged with each other then they get thru both get that commeraderie of reviewing the cigars each sent and the extra bonus stuff. There is nothing wrong with the original way and some might disagree I just think pairing makes it slighly more fun.

IN CONCLUSION... LOVE THIS IDEA! SUMMER SPRING BLIND TASTE?
abjd14
8 years ago
Whoops meant to just say anither in the summer?
RMAN4443
8 years ago

Cornhole is like horseshoes. Corn hole-ing a cigar is the back door lewinski and not recommended with buddies.

Just finished cigar #1. I think I was wrong on #3. Review coming tomorrow.

Just Relax wrote:


I go to a Blues Festival every August......they have a food booth called "The Corn Hole", that sells popcorn, corndogs, corn on the cob, etc. Last year I pcked up one of their T-Shirts......I Ate at the Cornhole.....my wife finds it embarrasing:-k

And if your doing the "back door Lewinski" with your buddies, you must have some very (ahem) "deep rooted friendships"😂
chazbo
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8 years ago
Finally smoked #1 from Dan today.
Size 5x46
Wrapper-light color, light in the hand and firm with no soft spots. Triple cap with a few imperfections with wrapper.
Punch cut and paired with a Bayern Dragon’s Breath brew.
Cold draw releases a sweet tobacco flavor.
Starts off with a mild hit of spice and sweet bread notes. Mild in strength with ample amount of smoke.
First third producing leathery taste with carmamel notes. Minor touch up needed to straighten the burn line.
Spice has disappeared with a crooked ash hanging. Half way mark and sweet bread is still present,
The ash finally fell on my hoidie🙄
Coming into the final third I taste some creamy leather as well. This is a very pleasing mild cigar. I would give it a B+ in flavor but a C+ in wrapper apperearance due to the blemishes and crooked ash.
My guess is this was the medium priced cigar but don’t know what exactly I smoked. I would smoke more of these especially in the morning or empty stomach. After an enjoyable hour I put it down with about a half inch left.
Thanks Dan, looking forward to smoking the other two.
Chazbo
ZRX1200
8 years ago
Cigar #1 4.7"×46 triple cap slightly crooked.some slight discoloration around two visible veins. Very oily slightly redish brown wrapper. Very firm roll with no soft spots.

Prelight is sour bread.

1/3rd: toasted foot (small crack in wrapper) first impression is salty meat and floral. Reminds me of a CC RyJ. Burn line is slightly wavy but no touchup required. Starting to get some oak in there. So far that's the only transition. Very straight medium to me and that's good.

2/3rd: starting to get hints of sweetness and the ash is still holding strong. The saltiness has faded, and of course the ash just fell LMAO....settled into heavier oak and slight cream but that's more mouthful (oily). Salt is still slightly present.

3/3rd: running out of room for the large band. Ash holding again, this is well constructed and the burn did correct the small wave. The cigar has calmed into one note charred oak (not my thing) but we're proceeding ahead. Ash fell again! Letting this go with an inch left as its getting hot.

Overall? Tastes Cuban (also ehen I clipped it there was some rolled over tobacco under the cap and a inverted nipple indentation on the top) but the wrapper really stumped me on this one. The final third tasted like a Connecticut wrapped dominican. My guess would be mid priced but I'll wait till all three are done for final impression. Off to work now, thanks for the fine cigar Rick!
danmdevries
8 years ago
Jamie's number 3 is a chocolatey brown Churchill and is also not a Gurkha, and came with its original cello wrap which is brown and crispy. I almost never smoke Churchills. Sometimes when camping and sitting in the hammock, or by the fire, I will smoke a Churchill. Never finish em. I can't recall the last churchill cigar I've brought to the garage.

Per routine, will live post the smoke, typing it up on my phone as I smoke just writing whatever I'm thinking about the cigar. Already several beers in today so I'll probably be a bit more wordy.

Rich barn aroma to the wrapper, some dusty hay spice tickled the sinuses. Nicely rolled, very very firm. Hopefully it will be open enough to smoke.

Clipped the Nicely done triple cap. Cold draw is sweet, smooth no sneezy. Pretty tight, but should work.

First light is pretty loaded. Spice, cedar, leaves with a background sweetness. Not much smoke, but flavor is rich. Pepper in the sinuses is mild on retrohale but does increase lingering sweetness.

I'm noticing the strength already. Weird, I can usually get through anything without noticing it till the end. Took a bit of sugar on with a half and half bourbon and maple syrup shot. Guts settling. Put my feet up in the recliner. Racecar rear bumper in the way of a full recline.

Chocolate notes on the finish, loads of cedar spice. Draw is tight, almost no smoke coming from this cigar. But it's burning evenly and no hot spots I can feel. Usually low smoke is tunneling, but it's burning correctly. Just not very Smokey. Foot smokes more than the draw, kinda reminds me of a Liga Privada in that sense. Full flavor on every draw though.

Much more cedar spice coming through. Has a retrohale burn, but not so peppery more like sneezing from cedar sawdust.

I'm enjoying this a lot. Came in 100% that is was the middle smoke given the prior two. But it's hitting a lot of marks I look for. Still pegging it in the middle because the #2 was a shape reserved for top shelf. But flavor and performance to the halfway mark so far has been compatible with high end. Age I'm sure has helped, I do prefer strong cigars to have a few years of rest, or mid-mid.

Strangely enough the flavors mellowed out rather than ramped up. I'm about an hour fifteen in and finding myself forcing the draw with consecutive puffs. Slight sour flavors come when I rush it. But it recovers nicely. Definitely a well made cigar. I re-read my #2 review to compare, I'm gonna stick with keeping this in the mids.

Flavor may have flattened out but strength has not. This thing's kicking my ass. Been on the verge of green most of the smoke. Hit me an inch or so in. The syrup n bourbon shot helped but it's worn off. Pretty sure I'll puke on this one. This makes a Cain F lance look like a party short. Usually don't feel the strength when I been drinking but this is STRONG.

Finally got to the well aged flavors. The creamy sweet nutty flavor I love so much. Unfortunately I can't go much longer. There is a hint of ammonia in the retrohale, and I'm picking up more heavy tar notes. Pretty much my experience with churchills is you can't smoke the whole thing. It's just on the verge of souring, as am I.

Gonna call it. I can't finish. 1:48 smoking time.

Gonna peg it mid, Nicaraguan, well aged.

#1 yard gar
#2 high end DR
#3 mid Nicaraguan

So, Z, what were they?
shaun341
8 years ago

Cigar #1 Triple cap - Toro, maybe double robusto? 6x52/4

Prelight - creamy dessert/woody. Punched draw was loose with a hearty woody flavor. Starting with a sprite and will pour something after I get going this time.

1/3 - Getting cedar, trying to convince myself it's Cuban but the large size is confusing me and it's not like any I've ever had. Ash is white and the burn is wavy but staying even. Decided I think the Stout that Shaun included in the trade would be a good match, but I think anything would have been a good match with this cigar. Shaun that beer was right in the sweet spot for me. Excellent choice. This cigar is very woody and rugged seems to be rough around the edges. Burn is starting to get uneven but I'm letting it go for now.

2/3 - I'm really enjoying this cigar. The ruggedness has seemed to settle down and has mellowed out. Flavor I'm getting is more of a mild wood chip used for smoking before lighting them. I've decided the flavor profile is likely on the strong side of medium. This woody flavor is something I know I haven't experienced to compare to. Ash fell of at two inches. There is no taper on the cherry, burn is level with the middle staying with the diameter. I'm intrigued because I've made my mind up this is Cuban and in my inexperience I could be smoking something really special or a fantastic "budget" house blend. I've decided I'm just going to enjoy it and stop sleuthing.

3/3 - Flavor has shifted a bit more to a buttery cream dessert woody. I had finished the stout and with the cigar becoming a bit creamy popped open a bottle of rhubarb wine. Another good pairing. Ash fell off at 1.5 and had to retouch. The bite is picking up. This just became excellent. The flavor changes have been subtle and complex. I'm pretty sure I've just smoked the high end and I'm doubting regardless of what it cost I'm am going to be able to go out and buy it as I think this has some good age on it.


Great choices Shaun. Each one was very different. I think after smoking the order is the same as when I pulled them out and compared before smoking any.

Cigar #1 - High end aged Cuban

Cigar #2 - Low end mellow yard gar

Cigar #3 - Medium end that likely only qualified due to using the box price on sale.

I also think my guesses are all wrong and I have no idea what any of them are. Can't wait to hear the results.

Just Relax wrote:



Loved reading your reviews, it is was if I was smoking the cigars myself. Here is what they were

1- Sobremesa (medium)
2- Tat L'Esprit de Verite 2013 (high end)
3- Shadow Kings (low end)

Sorry the high end Tat didn't work out for you. I ashed one rott and thought it was good and the rest have been sitting in my humi since the release. Hoping it was a dud possibly. The Sobremesa is one from when they were first released as well, can't remember when that was exactly. I like them and get much the same from them as you did. The Shadow King is an AJ blend for a competitor, I can pm you the info if you like. I like a lot of AJ blends but find they need some rest to take that harsh edge off of most of them. I found this one and loved it immediately. Think there was about a month in the humi on the one I sent you. Glad you had fun with this and I could contribute to that.
Just Relax
8 years ago
Shaun,

I figured I would be completely backwards and in the back of my mind was hoping 3 was something I could pick up cheap. It looks like they are only sold one place though one result was from an auction house I might check out. Pm if I'm not correct as I will be picking this up and keeping on supply.

The sobremesa was very unique. It had me tricked as I didn't think it was Cuban but with my limited experience was thinking it was just a profile I hadn't experienced yet and talked myself into it. Reading the description when it mellowed out nutty probably would have been a better adjective than smoking chips. I'll be watching to pick up a 5er to have on hand but I'm doubtful they go on sale.

With 2 that pretty much seals it for me that I'm not a tat fan. I've had about 5 different blends, some better than others but at the price point of each all have been just ok. None terrible but none have knocked my socks off. I just thought I overhyped them in my mind with the seemingly consensus opinion of excellence from others that my expectations are set too high, but they just must not be meant for me.

Thanks again for the selection and I enjoyed the experience. It has shown me a different way to enjoy cigars.
shaun341
8 years ago
You are correct about the spot for those Shadow Kings.
SmokeMonkey
8 years ago

Shaun,

I figured I would be completely backwards and in the back of my mind was hoping 3 was something I could pick up cheap. It looks like they are only sold one place though one result was from an auction house I might check out. Pm if I'm not correct as I will be picking this up and keeping on supply.

The sobremesa was very unique. It had me tricked as I didn't think it was Cuban but with my limited experience was thinking it was just a profile I hadn't experienced yet and talked myself into it. Reading the description when it mellowed out nutty probably would have been a better adjective than smoking chips. I'll be watching to pick up a 5er to have on hand but I'm doubtful they go on sale.

With 2 that pretty much seals it for me that I'm not a tat fan. I've had about 5 different blends, some better than others but at the price point of each all have been just ok. None terrible but none have knocked my socks off. I just thought I overhyped them in my mind with the seemingly consensus opinion of excellence from others that my expectations are set too high, but they just must not be meant for me.

Thanks again for the selection and I enjoyed the experience. It has shown me a different way to enjoy cigars.

Just Relax wrote:



Agree with you on Tats. Like Fuente, they just don’t seem to work for my palate.

If you’re interested in Sobremesa, PM me. Each vitola is a different take on the blend with varying strengths and tweaked flavor profiles. I’ve found a few I love and a few that are too mild for me. You can find them at a decent price, but your not going to find them at DP Newall prices.
SmokeMonkey
8 years ago
Also, I’m a lot more interested in the Shadow King now after hearing from you and Shaun. I passed it by before, as a shop exclusive.
Bad Mr Frosty
8 years ago
Damn it. Do one for April and I'm in. I have literally thousands of cigars lol.
ZRX1200
8 years ago
Blind cigar #2:

6x50 ish Toro with a chocolate brown toothy wrapper and a single cap. Plenty of soft spots. Pushing assumptions to yard gar. Cut, put in my mouth to smoke in garage while I get some work done on the older step son's race bike (bmx). Prelight draw is TOO easy but has a nice fermented sourdough taste.

1/3rd: starts out very nice, tastes like a cheap DC Maximus knockoff minus the raisin but a touch of pepper. Wrapper might be maduro, might not. Can't really place much (maybe shouldn't have done this while turning Allen wrenches and cussing at a bike). Burn is wavy, had to touch up but not major.

2/3rd: starting to get bitter and I don't understand why, I normally puff at a fast rate but I'm not on this and the ring gauge should be helping this. Purge. Better. Starting to get a little toasted peanut, still getting a touch of pepper and still woody. Gets sour again.....purged again.

3/3rd: purge took. It is staying toasty and is staying pleasant with no changes. Stays this way to the end, put down with 1 1/2" left as I finished this on the way to work and I gotta go look important.

Overall I liked it a fair amount minus the miscues in the middle. Don't know that I'd buy it. It tasted like a Dominican/Honduran reminding me of a cross between a cheap Fuente and a Rocky Patel. Oh....when I went to the garage before lighting my wet lips showed it was actually a triple cap forgot to mention that. I would guess cheapie or mid but there is one left to get to.
RMAN4443
8 years ago
Mystery Cigar #3....5.5x40 Maduro....paired with a Coffee Porter from a local NH brewer
PLA-Chocolate and baking spices....PLD-Tight.......PLFlavors.....Dry cocoa
Construction-very dark with an oily sheen....firm, no soft spots, with a very slight tooth , beautiful construction, Triple cap

Punch cut....toasted foot and easily lit
Initial draw-Cocoa with a dry sweetness......a little nicotine on the tongue

1/3: Delicious, but strong on the nicotine--this cigar may kick my ass. Lots of smoke....
has a flavor as if you were mixing a dry brownie mix and accidently got a bit of "brownie dust" up your nose....
Retrohale gives flavors of espresso, raisin, and cedar....oily on the lips......ash fell after one inch

2/3: Ash is very delicate, falls easily and without warning.....every 1/2 inch or so
Cocoa has disappeared-more of a coffee/espresso (very light and delicate) flavors.
The coffee porter seems to enhance the coffee notes in the cigar(very nice choice on the pairing)
Burn line is very even, a couple of minor deviations, but they easily self-corrected.
Very smooth- slightly floral notes creeping in---really starting to feel the nic kick...spicy and peppery tingle on the tongue

3/3: Cocoa is back...cigar is at the upper end of medium- high strength.....I'm definitely feeling the nicotine...
Burn went wonky a couple of times,but self corrected.....Flavors are going back and forth from cocoa to coffee
spicy and peppery, maybe even a touch of cinnamon.....had to put it to bed with about a 3/4 inch nub, after enjoying it for an hour and 50 minutes....

I'm torn here between the #2 and #3 cigars being the high end......they were both fantastic smokes......
the #3 was definitely stronger than I usually smoke, I have to admit, I did get the nic sweats and head buzz.....

I'm going to say the:
#1 was the yard gar due to construction issues
#2 was the High end....at least due t o my enjoyment of it
#3 was the medium range.....but very close to being high end
Thanks Yaro, I enjoyed smoking and reviewing all of these, and I'm looking forward to getting out and trying your hand tied flies in the near future...
.I'll keep you posted with my success....or lack of ...LoL
Thanks, Rick
I'll open your envelope in a day or so, after my reviews settle for a day or two, or you can fill us in on whether I was right or wrong......
I'm not even gonna try to pinpoint the brands......to many brands I know nothing about
stinger88
8 years ago
Yaro,
You still under the weather? Hope you are feeling better.

David
ypetryna
8 years ago

Yaro,
You still under the weather? Hope you are feeling better.

David

stinger88 wrote:



Dave, i am alternating between being free and snowed or rain. or being unavailable to enjoy or in this case review a cigar and excellent weather.

thought i would be able to sneak one in at local bar that i used to smoke with the bartender, and low and behold its the day where they close early so i had to settle for something not from the reivew stack.

soon i hope, soon
ypetryna
8 years ago

Mystery Cigar #3....5.5x40 Maduro....paired with a Coffee Porter from a local NH brewer
PLA-Chocolate and baking spices....PLD-Tight.......PLFlavors.....Dry cocoa
Construction-very dark with an oily sheen....firm, no soft spots, with a very slight tooth , beautiful construction, Triple cap

Punch cut....toasted foot and easily lit
Initial draw-Cocoa with a dry sweetness......a little nicotine on the tongue

1/3: Delicious, but strong on the nicotine--this cigar may kick my ass. Lots of smoke....
has a flavor as if you were mixing a dry brownie mix and accidently got a bit of "brownie dust" up your nose....
Retrohale gives flavors of espresso, raisin, and cedar....oily on the lips......ash fell after one inch

2/3: Ash is very delicate, falls easily and without warning.....every 1/2 inch or so
Cocoa has disappeared-more of a coffee/espresso (very light and delicate) flavors.
The coffee porter seems to enhance the coffee notes in the cigar(very nice choice on the pairing)
Burn line is very even, a couple of minor deviations, but they easily self-corrected.
Very smooth- slightly floral notes creeping in---really starting to feel the nic kick...spicy and peppery tingle on the tongue

3/3: Cocoa is back...cigar is at the upper end of medium- high strength.....I'm definitely feeling the nicotine...
Burn went wonky a couple of times,but self corrected.....Flavors are going back and forth from cocoa to coffee
spicy and peppery, maybe even a touch of cinnamon.....had to put it to bed with about a 3/4 inch nub, after enjoying it for an hour and 50 minutes....

I'm torn here between the #2 and #3 cigars being the high end......they were both fantastic smokes......
the #3 was definitely stronger than I usually smoke, I have to admit, I did get the nic sweats and head buzz.....

I'm going to say the:
#1 was the yard gar due to construction issues
#2 was the High end....at least due t o my enjoyment of it
#3 was the medium range.....but very close to being high end
Thanks Yaro, I enjoyed smoking and reviewing all of these, and I'm looking forward to getting out and trying your hand tied flies in the near future...
.I'll keep you posted with my success....or lack of ...LoL
Thanks, Rick
I'll open your envelope in a day or so, after my reviews settle for a day or two, or you can fill us in on whether I was right or wrong......
I'm not even gonna try to pinpoint the brands......to many brands I know nothing about

RMAN4443 wrote:




you did solid brother. happy yo found some you liked. i wont play spolier thou.

good reviews man. sorry #1 ppooped out on you man.
tamapatom
8 years ago

you did solid brother. happy yo found some you liked. i wont play spolier thou.

good reviews man. sorry #1 ppooped out on you man.

ypetryna wrote:


1,2,3 Am i missing something? Isn't it time to reveal what they all were?
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