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HuckFinn
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8 years ago

#161

What's the point of being the greatest country in the world if we can't shoot people crossing the border?

No clue how the first part of that sentence belongs with the second half.

What's the point of doing pottery if you haven't fed the cat?

OK. I get it. It's fun.

Edited by user 8 years ago | Reason: Not specified

tailgater
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#162

At least Tail is consistent. Wrong, but consistent.

Speyside wrote:

I'll bite.

No rhetoric.

Just tell me what I said that was incorrect.

Tell me with specificity the policy that Trump created to rip families apart.

MACS
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#163

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/06/18/myth-vs-fact-dhs-zero-tolerance-policy

Speyside
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8 years ago

#164

You are wrong when you generalize the entire left. You do it consistently. I am always open minded to other points of view. Though my tendency is to lean left, on some issues I certainly lean right. Such as gun control, and illegal aliens. I would be just as wrong if I stated generalizations about the entire right. I find you to be open minded and consider other points of view. On most issues you lean right, but on some issues to me you lean left.

So I was not talking about Trump. I can see how it looked like I was.

Though the more I hear from the far left loons I begin to wonder if there is a better way to describe myself. I really do find it difficult to think I am in a group that someone such as Huck is.

DrafterX
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8 years ago

#165

Too late man... 🤐

MACS
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8 years ago

#166

Myth
DHS has a policy to separate families at the border.

Fact
DHS does not have a blanket policy of separating families at the border. However, DHS does have a responsibility to protect all minors in our custody. This means DHS will separate adults and minors under certain circumstances. These circumstances include: 1) when DHS is unable to determine the familial relationship, 2) when DHS determines that a child may be at risk with the parent or legal guardian, or 3) when the parent or legal guardian is referred for criminal prosecution.

Familial Relationship – If there is reason to question the claimed familial relationship between an adult and child, it is not appropriate to detain adults and children together.

Human Trafficking and Smuggling – If there is reason to suspect the purported parent or legal guardian of human trafficking or smuggling, DHS detains the adult in an appropriate, secure detection facility, separate from the minor. DHS continues to see instances and intelligence reports indicating minors are trafficked by unrelated adults, posing as a “family” in an effort to avoid detention.

Safety Risk – If there is reason to suspect the purported parent or legal guardian poses a safety risk to the child (e.g. suspected child abuse), it is not appropriate to maintain the adult and child together.
Criminal Prosecution – If an adult is referred for criminal prosecution, the adult will be transferred to U.S. Marshals Service custody and any children will be classified as an unaccompanied alien child and transferred to the Department of Health and Human Services custody.

In recent months, DHS has seen a staggering increase in the number of illegal aliens using children to pose as family units to gain entry into the United States. From October 2017 to February 2018, there was a 315 percent increase in the number of cases of adults with minors fraudulently posing as “family units” to gain entry.

HuckFinn
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8 years ago

#167

Speyside wrote:

I never thought of myself as associated with any side.
I research stuff. And I watch and read almost everything I can!.
I respect integrity and intelligence. Plus conviction. I hate pettiness.
If I fall left of center, who cares.

But...Far left loon? Um, ok. Seems harsh but honest. I guess.

You shot from the hip, i feel honor bound to return the favor.
You're wishy-washy. I get the impression that you don't know who you really are and what you really think.

I am not trying to insult you. You're a decent guy. Please don't be offended.

You know, it's not like I called you a loon.

MACS
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#168

You're wishy-washy. I get the impression that you don't know who you really are and what you really think.

I am not trying to insult you. You're a decent guy. Please don't be offended.

You know, it's not like I called you a loon.

HuckFinn wrote:

LOL!

Speyside
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8 years ago

#169

Huck, it is simply what I think. Harsh yes, honest yes. I think you are far left on all you viewpoints. I think it is lunacy to believe only in the far left or the far right.

I think that each individual event/action should be considered on its own. What I am consistent about is I do not tie myself to one ideology. I go with what I believe to be correct.

bgz
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8 years ago

#170

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/06/18/myth-vs-fact-dhs-zero-tolerance-policy

MACS wrote:

Apparently they agree with me, it's better to not keep children in adult detention facilities.

Sounds like they actually are keeping the kids with their parents as long as they can prove it.

DrafterX
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8 years ago

#171

Well, if a dude looks like a Somali pirate and has a stolen Mexican kid I would think that would throw a red flag.. but Pelosi seems to think that's cool.. 😟

opelmanta1900
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8 years ago

#172

Black flag i think... pirates use black flags...

RMAN4443
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8 years ago

#173

Black flag i think... pirates use black flags...

opelmanta1900 wrote:

sounds a little bit racist to me...[-(

tailgater
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#174

Speyside wrote:

By definition, when I generalize I will be mostly correct. But also wrong. Otherwise a generalization doesn't fit.
But I do it "consistently" simply to garner a response. This is a forum where the person I'm communicating with may not even be present for hours or days so it's sometimes helpful to poke the bear of other like-minded souls.

My earlier post resulted in several "you're wrong tailgater" responses.
I see now that I chose the wrong individual to call to task since you were protesting a different aspect of my post.

And don't pick on Huck. But for him we could all be considered liberal.

Speyside
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8 years ago

#175

Ok, I better follow what yo are doing and I am good with that. Not that my opinion really matters in this regard. Thank you for clarifying. Honestly I was not picking on Huck. I was stating the obvious and how it relates to me. Huck, the next paragraph is not directed at you.

I find the following somewhat paradoxical. I cannot have a conversation with most liberals that is a free exchange of differing ideas, though the are some, such as Frank. I can have the same conversation with most conservatives. We probably will agree that we don't agree, but I truely like to understand different Ideas. Sometimes my point of view does change.

DrMaddVibe
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8 years ago

#176

Landmines dudes 😟

ZRX1200 wrote:

And Gun Turrets and Predator drones.

Can't have just one. Landmines make it guess work for the fools willing to cross. Gun turrets at intervals and major choke points. Drones operated in a mesh formation where it's feeding back intel 24/7...a missile strike would be minutes (if not seconds!) away.

On all of our borders. ALL. Especially our Southern border because of recent articles from Mexican politicians encouraging using a Saul Alinsky tactic.

Men, Women and children. Break the law, face the consequences. As Americans we need to start protecting this nation and it's laws. Soon, and by the looks of the landscape today...it will be sooner than most believe...this nation will need her revolution.

Edited by user 8 years ago | Reason: Not specified

HuckFinn
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8 years ago

#177

For most people, ideas and opinions have outstripped party lines and specific classification. I have some very so-called right wing opinions on certain issues..seriously.
Most of my R friends dislike Donald. Lines have blurred.

Am I a liberal? I don't think so. You guys do. I read the Daily Caller and Tucker as much as I check out cnn or MSNBC. I think, in the end, we all just sort of gravitate to one or another 'side' naturally.

Is TG a conservative? I dunno, dId he support Donald's trillion dollar plus spending package? I don't remember. Personally I think TG is part of Darth Vader's the Grand Army of the Republic.

Strict party affiliation is a useful tool for politicians, but shouldn't be for the general population.
They can decide for themselves. Strict anything never works well. Well maybe in S&M..vic?

I think labeling yourself or others but getting your direction and opinions from your only trusted media source is killing us right now. So cut it out.

Edited by user 8 years ago | Reason: Not specified

tailgater
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#178

I am a conservative that feels the GOP is a bunch of spendthrifts.

Libertarians are the only conservatives left, but they ain't got nobody to prop up like the liberals did during their weekend with Bernie.

Note that when I say conservative, I speak from a fiscal viewpoint.
Socially, I'm clearly a sadist.

HuckFinn
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8 years ago

#179

Illegal aliens have always been a problem in the United States. Ask any Indian.”
― Robert Orben

frankj1
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8 years ago

#180

So if I get caught robbing a bank I'm not a criminal.. good to know.. 😟

DrafterX wrote:

actually, you are not a criminal if caught robbing a bank.

you may yet be found to be a criminal after due process to determine your guilt...the one that protects all the rest of us from being picked up and jailed for years without that due process.

It's part of what has always made America great despite the country being disparaged as needing to undue that right of yours to be great again...weird and wrong.

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