victor809
8 years ago
... I think dsteig missed the joke.
frankj1
8 years ago

second time I've seen mention of that....who do Asians hate?


:) jk....but

I did know some Asians that disliked blacks for no clear reason...but even that was complicated -- there was some deep rooted animus related more to natives from their own countries than to those of African descent....maybe not animus necessarily, but certainly a feeling of superiority -- and I guess that was racial, but it could extend simply to vastly different skin tones of people that were clearly 90+% the same racial make up....

I know there's a lot of older Asians from countries other than Japan that hate Japanese....but, I'm not sure that's racist exactly....

If I dislike people specifically because they are a certain nationality, is that racist?


Hate (based on things other than views presented in cbid politics) sure can be complicated

dstieger wrote:


I think they hate round eyes....also jk.

I've seen a couple of issues at work with Vietnamese guys, not sure what distinctions they made agoinst others though.

I recall years ago that home run king Saduhara Oh was never truly accepted in japan due to one parent being of Chinese lineage.

Seem to an uninformed observer like me that rather than hate based on unfair stereotypes like here, they may hate based on ethnic purity...?
dstieger
8 years ago
someone did


for 101
dstieger
8 years ago
just rhetorical musing, Frank.....but the hatred of Japanese by many other older Asians is palpable....and for very good reason

I've always sort of nauseously marveled at all kinds of ethnic hatred.....I thought Hotel Rwanda did a particularly good job of showing examples that are impossible for many of us to begin to comprehend....like Kosovo....or Nazi Germany....or the Balkans...or how many 'cleansings' in and around Ottoman Empire....mind boggling
tailgater
8 years ago

... I think dsteig missed the joke.

victor809 wrote:



I really think so...


tailgater
8 years ago

he once called me a poopy head.

frankj1 wrote:



You only HEARD it once.


dstieger
8 years ago

I really think so...

tailgater wrote:



i've got your picture




tailgater
8 years ago
Of me and you?
delta1
8 years ago

i've got your picture




dstieger wrote:


nice...
Speyside
8 years ago
Your primary tactic is generalizing all liberals into one size fits all because it fits your narrative. Your other tactic is countering logic with bluster. You are also very consistent at joining in on conservative dog piles. Finally you make statements like the start of this post, that when researched just aren't factual.
HuckFinn
8 years ago

Your primary tactic is generalizing all liberals into one size fits all because it fits your narrative. Your other tactic is countering logic with bluster. You are also very consistent at joining in on conservative dog piles. Finally you make statements like the start of this post, that when researched just aren't factual.

Speyside wrote:


Other than that he's a great guy.

Maybe just a bit of a bully.
frankj1
8 years ago

just rhetorical musing, Frank.....but the hatred of Japanese by many other older Asians is palpable....and for very good reason

I've always sort of nauseously marveled at all kinds of ethnic hatred.....I thought Hotel Rwanda did a particularly good job of showing examples that are impossible for many of us to begin to comprehend....like Kosovo....or Nazi Germany....or the Balkans...or how many 'cleansings' in and around Ottoman Empire....mind boggling

dstieger wrote:


yeah, I kinda let WWII era slide right by me...

mind boggling, indeed.
tailgater
8 years ago

Your primary tactic is generalizing all liberals into one size fits all because it fits your narrative. Your other tactic is countering logic with bluster. You are also very consistent at joining in on conservative dog piles. Finally you make statements like the start of this post, that when researched just aren't factual.

Speyside wrote:



A. you need to look up "generalize". Why it's done. What it means and what it doesn't.
B. Logic with bluster? Just because you don't agree with me doesn't make it bluster.
C. I actually refrain from the conservative dog piles, other than to place a joke or three. I dislike the mob mentality and as you may have noticed my post frequency goes UP when more liberals (oops, sorry) post. So this is the exact opposite of the truth, but I'll try to let you down gently.
D. What, specifically, wasn't factual about my OP? I offered my opinion on a matter of pop culture news. With further research I stand by my assessment even though it upsets a lot of conservatively challenged individuals on this site.

Remember, people who disagreed with my opinion chose to steer the subject matter away from the liberal hypocrisy and towards the vile tweets. As if that would somehow make the subject matter moot.
There is nothing that isn't "factual" insomuch as an opinion can be of fact or otherwise: People on the left who are now in support of Gunn were previously against Barr.
That isn't even opinion. It's a verifiable fact.


tailgater
8 years ago
And by the way.
I'm tired of dancing around the term "Liberal".

I use it to describe people who are left of center in their political beliefs.

I'm tired of hearing you pansies cry and pee and moan and ruin your skirt every time I use it.
Get over yourself. You weak wristed, lisping bunch of snowflakes. Cripes. You'd think you're all on a collective, perpetual rag attack.

So remember.
I mean nothing negative when I say it.


victor809
8 years ago
Since you want to bring up your first abomination of a post tail...

your argument in 113 is based on the idea that you are correct in calling it hypocrisy (in post 1).
You never try to prove that first. You just started out begging the question.... Why would anyone have a constructive argument with you when you start it that way?

Step 1... Provide a hypothesis
Step 2 .. prove your hypothesis
Step 3 ... Apply your hypothesis

You went right to step 3...
tailgater
8 years ago
My first post, for clarity.


Roseanne Barr was fired for tweeting a lame joke that reeked of racism. FACT

The left cheered. FACT

And they cheered because Barr is a Trump supporter. Conjecture, based on facts already known and presented in the Gunn articles.
It had NOTHING to do with making a joke about race. Opinion


Now it seems that "right wing cyber nazi's" (Notice the parenthesizes?) have outed Guardians of the Galaxy director James Gunn for tweeting disgusting jokes in the past.
Disney fired James Gunn for the tweets, which deal with Rape and sex with infants. You know: standard subject matter for jokes...

But the left are NOT cheering. Fact

Because Gunn is a liberal who didn't vote for trump. This was in the news articles

Unless, of course, they feel that jokes about infant sex is OK as long as it doesn't mention race. This is a jab.

...

tailgater wrote:



If you notice, I didn't comment on the tweets other than to jab the left.
Maybe that's why Victor, et al chose to attack the tweet.
Meanwhile, ignoring the clearly stated hypocrisy.
I usually don't "try to prove" the obvious. Perhaps I should have considered my audience.

If it's not orange in color you really can't focus. Can you?
victor809
8 years ago
You were doing so good until you decided to editorialize at the end.

It's not hypocrisy unless you can prove equivalency.
This is why I asked you at the very beginning whether you read the tweets.

So. Prove the equivalency.
You are being wayyyy to generic currently to succeed... Just saying one was a racist joke and the other was a pedophile joke isn't really gonna do it.
frankj1
8 years ago
is Disney a right or left leaning organization?

I have no idea and normally wouldn't care at all, but the answer could lead to some interesting conjecture.

delta1
8 years ago
according to Conservapedia, Disney has turned into a secular progressive organization, evolving from a conservative one while Walt Disney was alive. Now, under Isner and Iger, it's gone Hollywood...
RMAN4443
8 years ago
Miley Cyrus worked for Disney...I don't know what that means, frank, but there it is...
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