lance4824
Wednesday, September 5, 2018 12:32:18 PM
I have been smoking cigars for about 15 years yet I just invested into cigars with a big humidor. I went from a social smoker/one maybe two a month. Now I smoke two or three a week or more.

In the past, there was nothing defining me with cigars. Even though I have smoked Cubans and premium cigars, I was too young or uneducated/both to understand what I was smoking. I am learning to enjoy the smoke and make the premium ones count. It is more than a smoke; it is apart of my life now.

I have over 300 cigars and I just want more. Hoarder/OCD. I have issues….

IronResin
Wednesday, September 5, 2018 4:31:17 PM

I have been smoking cigars for about 15 years yet I just invested into cigars with a big humidor. I went from a social smoker/one maybe two a month. Now I smoke two or three a week or more.

In the past, there was nothing defining me with cigars. Even though I have smoked Cubans and premium cigars, I was too young or uneducated/both to understand what I was smoking. I am learning to enjoy the smoke and make the premium ones count. It is more than a smoke; it is apart of my life now.

I have over 300 cigars and I just want more. Hoarder/OCD. I have issues….

lance4824 wrote:

What kind of humidor did you get? C Bid has allowed me the luxury of having extra smokes on hand and has thrusted my hobby into overdrive.

lance4824
Wednesday, September 5, 2018 4:57:27 PM

What kind of humidor did you get? C Bid has allowed me the luxury of having extra smokes on hand and has thrusted my hobby into overdrive.

IronResin wrote:

I don't know what kind or type. I found it on offer up. It was humidor and wine rack. I took the wine rack out. I will try to post pictures.

Palama
Wednesday, September 5, 2018 7:06:01 PM

What kind of humidor did you get? C Bid has allowed me the luxury of having extra smokes on hand and has thrusted my hobby into overdrive.

IronResin wrote:

When I first started out, I had a 20-25 ct humidor, quickly realized that I needed more storage so bought a 50 ct. Thought for sure I wasn’t gonna smoke 75 cigars in year...boy was I wrong!

IronResin
Wednesday, September 5, 2018 11:34:05 PM

When I first started out, I had a 20-25 ct humidor, quickly realized that I needed more storage so bought a 50 ct. Thought for sure I wasn’t gonna smoke 75 cigars in year...boy was I wrong!

Palama wrote:

Yea gonna try to keep it @ 500.

Palama
Wednesday, September 5, 2018 11:36:39 PM

Yea gonna try to keep it @ 500.

IronResin wrote:

I thought the same thing when I started my first cooler...boy was I wrong...again!

RMAN4443
Thursday, September 6, 2018 1:02:16 AM

Yea gonna try to keep it @ 500.

IronResin wrote:

Get it over with....go for the cooler and don't look back8-[

bikrtrsh
Thursday, September 6, 2018 1:08:43 AM
cooler? pfffffft! I have 2 end table humidors and a 250 ct desktop. I'm thinking I need to build a walk in. 😰

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KingoftheCove
Thursday, September 6, 2018 1:22:07 AM

Yea gonna try to keep it @ 500.

IronResin wrote:

Ha!

Uh.....hahahaha......

OK......you do that.

Here's what's gonna happen.

You'll find other places to score good deals........deals ya just can't pass up......cause they're too good, and they're your current favorites, or they're becoming extinct...whatever.

Then you'll suddenly find yourself with 573 cigars, with 2 boxes, 4 fivers, and a couple LFD samplers coming in the mail in 2 days........and you'll slide right down the rabbit hole.

Now, there's a good chance you'll come out of it after a few years, or more, and maybe you will ultimately settle in around 500.

I've seen this movie many times...

tamapatom
Thursday, September 6, 2018 9:57:51 AM
Collecting is an inadvertent result of the buying curve extending beyond the smoking curve.

Either your buying ramps up faster than smoking or your smoking hits a peak and ramps down over time while your buying continues. Even those who try to match buying rate to smoking rate usually have built up a reserve that exceeds reasonable expectations for an emergency backup supply.

I think there is a mathematical formula lurking here. I think Stephen Hawking was working on it.

lance4824
Thursday, September 6, 2018 10:52:37 AM

What kind of humidor did you get? C Bid has allowed me the luxury of having extra smokes on hand and has thrusted my hobby into overdrive.

IronResin wrote:

Iron

I tried to post a picture of my humidor but I need someone to approve it. If does gets approved i will send you the link.

IronResin
Thursday, September 6, 2018 11:01:12 AM

Collecting is an inadvertent result of the buying curve extending beyond the smoking curve.

Either your buying ramps up faster than smoking or your smoking hits a peak and ramps down over time while your buying continues. Even those who try to match buying rate to smoking rate usually have built up a reserve that exceeds reasonable expectations for an emergency backup supply.

I think there is a mathematical formula lurking here. I think Stephen Hawking was working on it.

tamapatom wrote:

I am trying to find my apex. Right now I'm on a buying spree, but am being selective. I want a well rounded humidor that reflects my pallet. I smoke on average about 20-30 smokes a month and am in the process of figuring out how many smokes I can manage in a large coolidor. My current setup is small but sweet. I have a small Igloo marine cooler that I have managed to get 5 levels of trays. I think I have the perfect ratio of cedar to plastic in that one. :-"

lance4824
Thursday, September 6, 2018 5:09:21 PM
delta1
Thursday, September 6, 2018 6:19:22 PM

Correct, some don't improve with age.

Agree!

This is where I disagree.

I've been doing the cigar thing for a very long time and my collection is crazy big. I can't recall ever having a cigar get worse with age. As I said in another post, with age generally strength decreases and complexity/richness of flavor increases. If you define "quality" as only "strength", then yes they lose "quality". But if you define "quality" more broadly, as I believe you should, then they never lose quality.

They may not improve at all, or they may improve at varying rates, typically with diminishing returns leading to no further improvements after a while (usually a long while).

But I can't recall ever saying to myself, "man, this stick is over the hill and lost its quality". The most I'd say is, "this stick isn't as strong as it used to be" but usually in that case, the other components of flavor have gotten better.

I've never regretted aging a cigar, even when they're 15-20 years old.

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Pudding Mittens wrote:

A few cigars came to mind when I posted that some cigars get worse over time: The most striking example is the Las Calaveras 2014, a phenomenal cigar when it came out...one of my all time faves...by 2016, the few remaining lost some luster, and by last year it was no longer a great cigar.

Another example is the Liga Privada #9 Feral Flying Pig, an explosion of cigar flavors when new...muted and dull a few years later....similar to LP T-52 line...

Pudding Mittens
Thursday, September 6, 2018 7:50:14 PM

I want a well rounded humidor that reflects my pallet.

IronResin wrote:

Common homophone error in the cigar community. It's "palate". Pallet is something you stack freight on and move with forklifts. Honestly I'm not being mean or pedantic, just pointing it out and trying to be helpful!

My current setup is small but sweet. I have a small Igloo marine cooler that I have managed to get 5 levels of trays. I think I have the perfect ratio of cedar to plastic in that one

That cooler sounds like a really nice setup!

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Pudding Mittens
Thursday, September 6, 2018 8:00:21 PM

A few cigars came to mind when I posted that some cigars get worse over time: The most striking example is the Las Calaveras 2014, a phenomenal cigar when it came out...one of my all time faves...by 2016, the few remaining lost some luster, and by last year it was no longer a great cigar.

delta1 wrote:

It might be palate differences between you and me, and different guys in general. If, during aging, characteristic A decreases and characteristic B increases, then a guy whose palate can detect A more than B will say the cigar lost quality, whereas another guy who can detect A and B equally might say the flavors changed but the overall quality is the same, and a guy who can detect B more than A will say that it got better.

Another example is the Liga Privada #9 Feral Flying Pig, an explosion of cigar flavors when new...muted and dull a few years later....similar to LP T-52 line...

As for the Ligas, I've heard many rumors from many different people that some special additives or processes or SOME form of weirdness is done to them, and that it causes them to behave differently from "normal" cigars when it comes to things like aging (and some other stuff like tending to produce abnormally large amounts of smoke including resting smoke). But no proof, so who knows.

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bgz
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Thursday, September 6, 2018 8:12:14 PM
A cigar shop proprietor told me it was a glycerin based substance. At the time he said it was on all Drew Estate's cigars except Herrera Esteli.

I've found no other source for the information though. I looked at some point, but didn't find any information to confirm it.

Pudding Mittens
Thursday, September 6, 2018 8:30:14 PM

A cigar shop proprietor told me it was a glycerin based substance. At the time he said it was on all Drew Estate's cigars except Herrera Esteli.

I've found no other source for the information though. I looked at some point, but didn't find any information to confirm it.

bgz wrote:

Interesting. If true, one wonders if the stuff evaporates after X amount of time, causing the cigar to lose some of its flavors and thus "get worse with age".

Of course, this is pure speculation and hypothetical. I've never seen any hard evidence of any additives, just lots of rumors.

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IronResin
Thursday, September 6, 2018 10:19:20 PM

A cigar shop proprietor told me it was a glycerin based substance. At the time he said it was on all Drew Estate's cigars except Herrera Esteli.

I've found no other source for the information though. I looked at some point, but didn't find any information to confirm it.

bgz wrote:

WTF! I hope this is not true.

lance4824
Friday, September 7, 2018 12:48:26 PM

What kind of humidor did you get? C Bid has allowed me the luxury of having extra smokes on hand and has thrusted my hobby into overdrive.

IronResin wrote:

Did you check out my humidor?

http://www.cigarbid.com/Forum/c/posts/657942/My-Humidor