frankj1
8 years ago

One of the lawmakers on the hot seat ahead of the vote is Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, who recently received a particularly unusual gift in an effort to sway her opinion.

A package of 3,000 coat hangers arrived at Collins’ office in Washington, D.C. -- symbolizing back-alley abortions that took place before they became legal with the 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling -- in the hopes of convincing the pro-choice senator to vote against Brett Kavanaugh’s Supreme Court confirmation.


sick bassards...[-(

DrafterX wrote:


that is very ugly.
She may be pro choice but seems to be leaning toward confirming him...from what I've heard.
DrafterX
8 years ago
Yes.. they are trying to sway her vote... 😟
tailgater
8 years ago

that is very ugly.
She may be pro choice but seems to be leaning toward confirming him...from what I've heard.

frankj1 wrote:



BUT seems to be leaning toward confirming him??

Are you suggesting that you can't confirm unless the candidate is in lockstep with every issue?



Kavanaugh gets appointed, guess what happens?
Abortion remains a legal option.

You heard it hear first.

frankj1
8 years ago

BUT seems to be leaning toward confirming him??

Are you suggesting that you can't confirm unless the candidate is in lockstep with every issue?



Kavanaugh gets appointed, guess what happens?
Abortion remains a legal option.

You heard it hear first.

tailgater wrote:


despite the (possible) differences on an issue that is very important to her, she may very well vote to confirm. Who mentioned lockstep? Quite the opposite. The "But" was not as strong as it seemed. And that's hard to write without smirking.

I'd agree it remains legal.
tailgater
8 years ago
You had me at strong but.


frankj1
8 years ago
smirking out loud
DrafterX
8 years ago
Hillary Clinton on Wednesday repeated a Democratic talking point about Judge Brett Kavanaugh’s use of the phrase “abortion-inducing drugs” -- a claim that has been repeatedly debunked by fact-checkers.

“I want to be sure we're all clear about something that Brett Kavanaugh said in his confirmation hearings last week,” she tweeted. “He referred to birth-control pills as "abortion-inducing drugs." That set off a lot of alarm bells for me, and it should for you, too.”

Kavanaugh, at his Supreme Court confirmation hearing on Thursday was asked about a case he ruled on involving Priests for Life, a pro-life group that was challenging ObamaCare’s contraceptive mandate that the group said violated its religious beliefs.

"That was a group that was being forced to provide certain kind of health coverage over their religious objection to their employees. And under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, the question was first, was this a substantial burden on the religious exercise? And it seemed to me quite clearly it was," Kavanaugh told lawmakers on the Senate Judiciary Committee.


"It was a technical matter of filling out a form in that case," he said. "In that case, they said filling out the form would make them complicit in the provision of the abortion-inducing drugs that were, as a religious matter, objected to."

Democrats and pro-choice groups seized on the reference to “abortion-inducing drugs,” which Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., described as a “dog whistle for going after birth control.” A video she tweeted out cut out the preface that showed Kavanaugh was making it clear he was summarizing the arguments of Priests for Life.



Just keep repeating the lies and peoples will believe it...
victor809
8 years ago
How is this a lie?

If he was repeating the priests false assertion that these are "abortion inducing drugs" while agreeing with him, then that's bad...

Didn't he rule in their favor on this case? That would imply that he agreed in their statement.

The only thing he should be saying is accurate information.
victor809
8 years ago
Correction.
I think what the Dems said was false.
But kavanaugh did imply through his ruling that he agreed with the false statement the priests made. The Dems should have been precise in their language.
opelmanta1900
8 years ago
What's politifact say?
zitotczito
8 years ago
I don't see what the problem here is. I mean who has a problem killing unborn children for convenience, birth control or socio-economic reasons (98.3% of total). Kill off possible taxpayers and replace them with non-taxpayers, seems like a win-win for this country.
victor809
8 years ago
Opel... It says it's a lie. And gives good reasons.
delta1
8 years ago

Can't walk back the wishes of 63 million Americans. Can't walk back the results so far either despite the Kenyan King's latest lies he's telling.

People were fed up with career politicians lying to their faces. They elected Trump. Look at what he campaigned on. He's crossing them off one by one. Keeping promises he made on the trail. You can hate him or love him, but to feign that he's not living up to what he said he was going to do is just downright the wrong discernment he deserves.

I didn't vote for him the 1st time. I will the 2nd though. I don't know a single person that regrets their vote for him. I've heard from some on the Left that wished they had've.


https://nationalinterest.org/feature/why-trumps-record-trumps-medias-spin-30757 

DrMaddVibe wrote:




#-o
rfenst
8 years ago
I think people voted for Trump mostly because he wasn't Hillary.
frankj1
8 years ago
the key to winning modern elections is to get previously uninvolved voters to get off the couch and vote. Obama was successful with minorities twice. Hillary could not sustain that momentum.

She got many more votes than Trump overall, but did not work the geography intelligently.

A yuuuge part of Trump's win, considering electoral votes, was from the rust belt types (and pockets elsewhere in the same boat) who normally don't vote but were now stirred by enough passion and anger from the ongoing recovery bypassing them. Yeah, some got insurance, but few got jobs, or at least jobs worth having.

Things may revert however. Many of them have the same poor or non employment issues, and less have insurance...the question will be if they are still directing their anger where they did 2 years ago, or will they sit back on the couch?
tailgater
7 years ago

I think people voted for Trump mostly because he wasn't Hillary.

rfenst wrote:



Then why aren't I president?
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
Hanging chads...
tailgater
7 years ago

the key to winning modern elections is to get previously uninvolved voters to get off the couch and vote. Obama was successful with minorities twice. Hillary could not sustain that momentum.

She got many more votes than Trump overall, but did not work the geography intelligently.

A yuuuge part of Trump's win, considering electoral votes, was from the rust belt types (and pockets elsewhere in the same boat) who normally don't vote but were now stirred by enough passion and anger from the ongoing recovery bypassing them. Yeah, some got insurance, but few got jobs, or at least jobs worth having.

Things may revert however. Many of them have the same poor or non employment issues, and less have insurance...the question will be if they are still directing their anger where they did 2 years ago, or will they sit back on the couch?

frankj1 wrote:



I'm disappointed in this post.

First paragraph is fine.
Second is your way of saying "see! she got more votes!" You're better than that.
Third belittles American voters. Yes. It does.
And the last is twisting the facts. Americans are working like never before. There are half million open jobs and nobody to fill them. If people aren't working, they're either tied to young children or they aren't trying.

You might be right. They might be on the couch at the mid terms.
But I'm disappointed at your cynicism.


frankj1
7 years ago

I'm disappointed in this post.

First paragraph is fine.
Second is your way of saying "see! she got more votes!" You're better than that.
Third belittles American voters. Yes. It does.
And the last is twisting the facts. Americans are working like never before. There are half million open jobs and nobody to fill them. If people aren't working, they're either tied to young children or they aren't trying.

You might be right. They might be on the couch at the mid terms.
But I'm disappointed at your cynicism.


tailgater wrote:


well, she got more votes. A few million more! you can't be arguing that. None of them were mine though.

American non-voters deserve belittling.

It is indisputable that the specific voters I referenced are not enjoying the nearly decade long recovery that you and I are enjoying. Detroit vs Boston? Please.

If I was really a cynic, I'd tell them to move over and make some room for my fat azz on the couch.
delta1
7 years ago
that's exactly right...by not voting, we, collectively, empower a motivated minority...

Trump's base, between 35-40% of Americans, and many disillusioned independents, elected him.

His base continues to staunchly support and defend him and believe in what he's doing. They don't care about his sideshow or any potential explosive baggage...
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