No answer required, but I wonder how many pro abortion folks have children or grandchildren.

My point of view changed considerably after becoming a Father and again a Grandfather. You don't know what you don't know. It doesn't mean you cannot have an option, (Victor) but an experience that can shape your opinion.

Gene363 wrote:

I am pro choice, my friend Dan is pro life. I feel strongly that none of his tax money should fund abortions and twice as much of my tax money should fund abortions. I am not talking about him paying less taxes and me paying more taxes. Rather a redistribution of how part of our taxes are spent.

Also I think abortion is wrong, but feel a womans choice to control her own body takes precedence until such time as the fetus could become a viable human being outside of the womb.

Not looking for heated discussion, rather I thought these would be good discussions.

Speyside wrote:

Just the opposite, now answer the question?

Gene363 wrote:

Joe, I guess math isn't your thing. We both pay $100 of tax. But instead of each of us having $5 used for abortions. $10 of my tax is used for abortions and $0 of your tax is used for abortions. Same $10 total used for abortion, but none of your money was used for abortions. You could argue what difference does it make. The difference is you would know you didn't pay for an abortion.

Speyside wrote:

Then your comprehension is poor.
I stated:
"The chances of him having a friend who is both pleased and vocal about an abortion are about the same as me having a friend who's a vocal Evangelical."

You chose to state I was wrong and that just the opposite is true.

victor809 wrote:

Then your comprehension is poor.
I stated:
"The chances of him having a friend who is both pleased and vocal about an abortion are about the same as me having a friend who's a vocal Evangelical."

You chose to state I was wrong and that just the opposite is true.

victor809 wrote:

And... you're still wrong and failed to answer my question. On the positive side, you did bring up reading comprehension, you might want to work on yours.

Gene363 wrote:

I'm a father, and I'm pro abortion. Was abortion right for my wife and I? No, it wasn't, we wanted kids. Who am I to tell someone else that it's not right for them?

Something that always baffled me about the far Right... if you're so anti-regulation, then why do you want to regulate abortion?

Doesn't make sense.

I lean right, and I prefer minimal regulations... not quite libertarian hard core beliefs, but ... well, I guess I would be a moderate libertarian if you had to put a label on me. That's besides the point.

Point is, if you preach anti-regulation, then you shouldn't want to regulate abortion. More abortions means less welfare, less money being paid to prison systems, basically less money being shelled out for all kinds of stuff.

The only reason I could see for wanting to ban abortions is to have a higher supply of cheap labor. You know most of the would be abortions are going to vote liberal don't you?

Wait... both parties are backwards on this argument, rofl...

bgz wrote:

If a Mother choses to murder, (abortion = murder) her child, has consent from the Father and isn't past the first trimester, let the miserable biotches have at, the government has no business up a woman's skirt....

Gene363 wrote:

So I think what Gene is saying is that once one is a father or grandfather, their intellect is compromised and they are no longer able to make rational decisions relating to abortion. I won't disagree with him. Abortion laws should probably only be made by people like me...

victor809 wrote:

Sigh.

If you believe that women who have had an abortion regret it 15 years later. Then why do you reference friends who are both pleased with and vocal about their past abortions.

You can't have it both ways gene. And I'm a male. I can't have an abortion. I have paid for them.

victor809 wrote:

Opel, I guess math is not your thing either. It is a net zero. We presently pay $200 in taxes. $10 of which goes toward abortions. In the scenario I suggest We pay $200 in taxes. $10 of which goes toward abortions. The difference is Tail who is against abortion has none of his money go towards abortion. We have both paid the same amount of taxes. In my original post I stated I am against abortion and outlined why I am willing to pay taxes for abortion.

Speyside wrote:

Huh?
Why would that be sad in the least?

victor809 wrote:

I think his point was that if you get to take ten of your tax dollars and use it for abortion funding, you're only paying 90% of what I'm paying towards things that should actually be funded by tax payers... If you love abortion so much, you can pay 110% taxes... Then it's even...

opelmanta1900 wrote: