tailgater
7 years ago
Thou shalt not be a Trump.

ZRX1200
7 years ago
I would have changed the subject and answered a question with a question too.......
Gene363
7 years ago

Was it top secret information?

Was she sending the email from an non government server?

Was the server operated with inadequate security measures?

Did she have the server destroyed after it disclosed to the public?

Did she take a hammer to the disk drive(s)?


Burner02
7 years ago

Burner, I am not concerned. I am just pointing out the obvious. Hillary committed no chargeable crime, neither did Ivanka. But people still argue that Hillary should be convicted, which is absurd. The lock her up theme played to a bunch of people in Trumps base. It still does. They both broke the same protocols, they both should be held to the same standards. The apples to oranges analogy does not work. They both used non government servers. It is not a question of private server versus public server. Nor is it a matter of content. It is about using a non government server.

Speyside wrote:




Just how Hillary was hoping her base would react and it worked.
ZRX1200
7 years ago
Or hand over wiped devices.....
frankj1
7 years ago

Despite all the expert opinion in here Hillary was investigated multiple times and there was nothing actionable discovered. Most folks in here disagree with the results and often spread misinformation. Some of which is in this very thread and I think folks here actually beleive the misinformation.

We wasted a lot of time and money on those investigations for purely political purposes and to paint the picture that the Clintons are above the law. An easy picture to paint given their slimey actions.

So we elect a reality tv carnival barker because he isn’t Hillary. The dude and his family also beleive they are above the law, entitled and are every bit as slimy or more than the Clintons. Yet we are willing to rationalize it all because.... well Hillary or Obama.

Many of you are exactly what you profess to despise.

The Hillary investigations were obsessive and more than complete. They showed slime not crime which is no surprise. Some think it was crime but if there was she’d go down. Lock her up is a stupid farce some buy in to.

As for Ivanka same deal. Slime no crime likely. Do one tenth of the investigation done on Hillary and if no obvious crime move on.

Hillary is Trump, Trump is Hillary and the hatfields and McCoy’s dig in thinking they are being logical.

Nothing new here.

teedubbya wrote:



s'up tw?

I wrote similar in another current thread:
Re Hillary...

"I understand everyone is positive of the guilt or innocence based on their views...even me sometimes...but we've covered it for years now.

I don't harbor the hate for the Clinton's (not to be confused with supporting them) that exists here, but I'm OK with the findings of life long Republicans who investigated and determined there would be no guilty verdict.

That's different than saying "not guilty", but it still ended years ago. And he got a lasting dagger in her with reopening the case just before the election, so there was some "justice" for some of ya."

I'll add in this thread about the young Trump...probably nothing earthshaking has come from her dumb move. Probably no reason to make a "federal case" out of it either.

Really stupid to claim she had no idea, after all that was written and said about Hillary, and less so about Powell when he did it, and probably others before and since we never heard about, but really stupid to have missed this very volatile story that her father, the POTUS, kept alive with Crooked Hillary and lock her up stuff...how did his daughter not know?

I believe I answered that above...really stupid.


Abrignac
7 years ago

s'up tw?

I wrote similar in another current thread:
Re Hillary...

"I understand everyone is positive of the guilt or innocence based on their views...even me sometimes...but we've covered it for years now.

I don't harbor the hate for the Clinton's (not to be confused with supporting them) that exists here, but I'm OK with the findings of life long Republicans who investigated and determined there would be no guilty verdict.

That's different than saying "not guilty", but it still ended years ago. And he got a lasting dagger in her with reopening the case just before the election, so there was some "justice" for some of ya."

I'll add in this thread about the young Trump...probably nothing earthshaking has come from her dumb move. Probably no reason to make a "federal case" out of it either.

Really stupid to claim she had no idea, after all that was written and said about Hillary, and less so about Powell when he did it, and probably others before and since we never heard about, but really stupid to have missed this very volatile story that her father, the POTUS, kept alive with Crooked Hillary and lock her up stuff...how did his daughter not know?

I believe I answered that above...really stupid.


frankj1 wrote:



Yep.
frankj1
7 years ago
yeah.
it ain't going anywhere.
bgz
  • bgz
  • Herf-A-Holic
7 years ago
I disagree. I think security in communication of government officials is very important and not to be taken lightly.

I really do think there should be major consequences for not following communications protocol. The higher the position, the more major the consequences.

The group of people coming up now have had more time to understand internet security because the internet has been around for most if not all their lives.

It shouldn't be that hard for the younger generation to understand, where as I kinda get it with the old farts.

Hillary doesn't apply though... she had her own private email server with physical and administrative access to the hardware and operating system respectively.

For the position she was in, it can only be seen as reckless and shady.

You don't have that type of setup if you're a non-IT person just wanting a private email for chatting up your old buddies about movies and other non-work related crap.

Seriously, I've ran mail servers... I have no desire to run my own mail server, it's more hassle than it's worth unless you got something to hide.

Not to mention a target like her is just looking to get hacked... so it was also stupid.
DrafterX
7 years ago
Sounds like this old news from 14 months ago.. she sent some unclassified stuff, it was caught, it was cleaned up and actions were taken to prevent it from happening again... No cover-up or smashing of phones and stuff... 😟
Burner02
7 years ago

Despite all the expert opinion in here Hillary was investigated multiple times and there was nothing actionable discovered. Most folks in here disagree with the results and often spread misinformation. Some of which is in this very thread and I think folks here actually beleive the misinformation.

We wasted a lot of time and money on those investigations for purely political purposes and to paint the picture that the Clintons are above the law. An easy picture to paint given their slimey actions.

So we elect a reality tv carnival barker because he isn’t Hillary. The dude and his family also beleive they are above the law, entitled and are every bit as slimy or more than the Clintons. Yet we are willing to rationalize it all because.... well Hillary or Obama.

Many of you are exactly what you profess to despise.

The Hillary investigations were obsessive and more than complete. They showed slime not crime which is no surprise. Some think it was crime but if there was she’d go down. Lock her up is a stupid farce some buy in to.

As for Ivanka same deal. Slime no crime likely. Do one tenth of the investigation done on Hillary and if no obvious crime move on.

Hillary is Trump, Trump is Hillary and the hatfields and McCoy’s dig in thinking they are being logical.

Nothing new here.

teedubbya wrote:




Surely, it was not my comment about the Foundation that brought you down from your fence? Its my opinion and I will stick with it. Hillary had the server set up to hide something and the Foundation was the cash cow and would be the most logical. If you have not read #’s 11 & 29 do so, bgz is spot on in his take on the com and IT aspect.

So, an investigation into an unauthorized server and the mishandling of classified information by the former Secretary of State was a waste of time/money? I would have to disagree and would consider this to be misinformation. It is unfortunate that the former Secretary of State would create such an issue that would waste all of the resources that it took to prove they the Clintons were above the law. Guess we can bring up the Russia probe later.

I do find your assertion that the Hillary investigations were obsessive and more than complete also misinformation. However, I will give it to you that with Comey’s overall leadership and McCabe’s (documented Trump hater) involvement it had to be “obsessive and more than complete.” What really gave me the warm, fuzzy feeling was the Clinton/Lynch tarmac meeting. Nothing to see here, just golf and grand kids.

You have indicated in the past that you have or had a security clearance. I will take you at your word that you do or did. I’m guessing that you were not responsible for secure com. If I’m wrong and you are/were responsible for secure com and you think Hillary did nothing wrong, then you and people like you are a big part of the problem. Rules don’t apply.

Carry on!

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