The news entertainers cater to a partisan audience. There is no danger in telling joe redneck that Trump is great, or telling snowflake sammy that Trump is evil. Their opinions were formed already.

The danger is in the subtle influence employed by so-called "news" sources.

Infomercials have influenced and fooled people for years. The news entertainment business is similar in my mind regardless of network. Jim Baker is still going at it

^ true

Trump has never had the support of a full half of the people...

more than half of the people have not approved of him as President...

these numbers seem to be reflected in the popular vote during the Presidential election of 2016, where Trump's electoral college victory was juxtaposed to his deficit of nearly 3 million actual votes

many items in the dossier have been proven accurate...
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-dossier-true-proven-929839 

Yes. Because California should decide a national election....

cons didn't seem to have any issues with news entertainers when Obama was President...he was blasted daily by Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly, Savage, Ingraham, Elder, et al...conservatives dominated talk-radio and Fox News was the highest rated show on cable TV...

Limbaugh seemed to be in sync with the Bush WH or vice-versa, since their daily talking points almost always lined up...libs didn't have any high profile national news entertainers...maybe Al Franken or John Stewart, two comedians, whose combined audiences didn't get close to any con news entertainment host...

now comes a con President who provides fodder for libs to talk about...Trump literally says/tweets controversial stuff almost daily...and he's done stuff that is controversial and against the norms, some of which appears very close to crossing legal/criminal lines...and the multiple investigations are finding a lot of witches among people in his orbit.. there is so much fertile soil for one lib news entertainer, Rachel Maddow, to talk about to gain an audience...

so cons now complain about news entertainers...really?

it was OK when it was a Dem being beaten up daily...

correct again...

majority rules in most things American...

the will of about 95,000 people in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin over-ruled nearly 3 million people...but that's the system we have and we accept the outcome...the rule of law trumps all ...

We should save this post as an example of convoluted logic.

Agreed.

Al.....I’d be real careful what you ask for, and a constitutional republic is not direct democracy.

I doubt we'll ever have a pure/direct democracy...I understand the need for the compromises that created the United States, and the give and take that resulted in the electoral college system...

I also know that Constitutional Amendments need to be passed to change the current voting system, and I don't see that happening in my lifetime, prolly not in yours either, Jamie...I just like to rant every once in awhile, cuz the the GOP candidate has won the last three elections when the winner lost the popular vote: Harrison in 1888, Bush in 2000 and Trump in 2016...

😎 you’d have to do better to not be my buddy.

Yep things have heated up a bit between friends lately. Now might be a great time to ratchet down the rhetoric between us in this thread and a few others.

That said, here's to you Al 🍺

When we get together next year for the herf, first cigar is on me. Love ya, brother.

right?


but it defines American society, where the most points win, generally, except when we have national elections...