https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/04/02/census-stop-asking-citizenship/

False

victor809 wrote:

It’s misleading, moreover, to claim that the citizenship question was “removed” from the census in 2010. As noted above, it was a standard question on census forms through 1950; then, for unexplained reasons, it was omitted in 1960 for everyone except residents of New York City and Puerto Rico. Beginning in 1970 and continuing through 2000, the Census Bureau used two different questionnaires to gather information: a short form sent to more than 80 percent of American households which did not inquire about citizenship, and a long form distributed to fewer than 20 percent of American households which did. The long form was discontinued after 2000, so in 2010 every household received the short form — meaning, in effect, that no one was asked for citizenship data in that year’s decennial census. But it wasn’t because any questions were “removed.”

The article you cited from snopes wrote:

If you were smart enough to read you would see that the removal of the long form from 2010 was in the works in 2005, prior to Obama.

If you were smart enough to read, you would also see that the Census Bureau implemented the ACS on an annual basis starting in 2003, and including a citizenship question.


So... we have been asking "the citizenship question" annually of about 2.6% of the households, instead of every 10 years of less than 20% of the households.

If you could do math, you would realize that since 2003 we were gathering more data on citizenship, in a program run by the census bureau.

victor809 wrote:

Can’t believe you’re citing this BS from snopes. They clearly contradict themselves and try their best to distort the facts to pigeonhole an answer to disassociate Obama from removing the question from the census.

But let’s not lose sight of reality.



Just the facts:
The Census Bureau is a sub-section or the Commerce Department

The Commerce Department falls under the Executive branch of United States Government.

The Chief executive is The President.

8/29/2008 Obama was elected President

1/20/2009 - Obama’s inauguration

July 23, 2009 - The Census Bureau began printing 2010 Census questionnaires

March 1, 2010 - 2010 census questionnaires begin arriving in mailboxes throughout the United States and Island Areas.

I’ve connected the dots for you.

Apology for trying to mislead is accepted.

Abrignac wrote:

But, it happened on his watch. He could have the Census bureau continue the long form. It’s not like it had to be recreated. It could have been printed the old form as it has been done in the past. Saying it began in 2005 could have simply meant it had been discussed. But, you have taken a huge leap of faith. Hope you are wearing a parachute.

Abrignac wrote:

Why do it?

If we have the information gathered annually.... why ask that question again decennially ?

victor809 wrote:

One is required by law to answer the Census. The annual survey’s not so much. Seems a requirement is going to yield a larger data set than one not required by law. Hence, more accurate.

Abrignac wrote:

There I’ve answered your question that requires an opinion.

Turn about is fair play.

Why don’t you want the question asked?

You are required to answer the ACS by law as well.
https://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2014/jan/09/us-census-bureau/americans-must-answer-us-census-bureau-survey-law-/ 



I don't honestly care. I literally don't care one bit if we ask it.

The supreme court ruled that he shouldn't have it.

He blustered for a week that he was going to defy the supreme court.

I care about that.

victor809 wrote:

His own mouth is his biggest liability.

Abrignac wrote:

I am embarrassed for you.

frankj1 wrote:

been out for several hours and have enjoyed this thread, so I went back a page to reread.
I discovered an error in my above quote.

in trying to be witty, I did not mean for this post to come out quite like it did (though some may prefer it to the intended post)...tail wrote a version of the accepted and approved for human consumption c-bid line "asking for a friend"

So, I meant to write ..." I am embarrased for your friend".

I hope this clears up any misunderstanding.
Why there would be any is beyond me.


edited.

frankj1 wrote:

I've gone back in forth over whether the citizenship question should be included on the 10 year Census...seems the Federal Appellate Courts and the SCOTUS believe there must be a good, non-discriminatory reason to include it, and they've ruled against the WH legal argument to include it...so their default position is to leave it out...rule of law prevails...

I'm gonna go with those with legal minds brighter than mine, and side with those who believe the question should be left off...the argument that it would produce an undercount is persuasive, especially among immigrants who are legally in this country, who, for whatever reason, decline to return the questionnaire... if we're going to do a count of every person in the US, and that is the stated purpose for the Census, we should avoid any step in the process that impedes that goal...

Trump has been told the citizenship data is available through other sources at his disposal, under his supervision...he's moving in that direction...


I hope I didn't embarrass myself by waffling on the question............

delta1 wrote:

Why do it?

If we have the information gathered annually.... why ask that question again decennially ?

victor809 wrote:

Asking ABOUT a friend.

tailgater wrote: