teedubbya
7 years ago
Opel I’m not and have not been pissed off and don’t find you disrespectful. I just wanted to know more about your thoughts. They didn’t connect with me. I appreciate the time and different thought process.

Been thinking about izon and his need to self identify. This may not go well with some in here. I think that’s a bunch of crap but I also think you need to have a wiener to be a man and vag to be a chick. I think people can be whatever they want and we shouldn’t discriminate but I don’t have to pretend the sky is yellow and the sun is blue to accommodate them.
izonfire
7 years ago

Opel I’m not and have not been pissed off and don’t find you disrespectful. I just wanted to know more about your thoughts. They didn’t connect with me. I appreciate the time and different thought process.

Been thinking about izon and his need to self identify. This may not go well with some in here. I think that’s a bunch of crap but I also think you need to have a wiener to be a man and vag to be a chick. I think people can be whatever they want and we shouldn’t discriminate but I don’t have to pretend the sky is yellow and the sun is blue to accommodate them.

teedubbya wrote:



I can identify with that
teedubbya
7 years ago
Mine is only an outtie when fully aroused and I Ben then just barely. So I go back and forth.
teedubbya
7 years ago
Even then. Not changing I Ben. Makes it interesting.
delta1
7 years ago

I am, but it's largely a passive call to inaction and donut consumption... You'll be on board...

opelmanta1900 wrote:



#Donutlivesmatter!!!


tough enough to live life with a hole in your middle....
teedubbya
7 years ago
Isn’t it redundant with the blue lives thing?
frankj1
7 years ago

“Actually the Hispanic community was not my target before I read The Great Replacement.”

Wikipedia lists this novel as a “white nationalist right-wing conspiracy theory.” It’s interesting this novel would affect him so deeply that he would change his original target. I wonder who that was?

Phil222 wrote:


not long ago we were treated to "The Jews will not replace us"

it's a mistake to consider any string of words from this POS as legitimate criticism of this country.
His conclusion on course of action is the way to define him.

edit:
not responding to you Phil. Just picking up on the theme you brought up.
izonfire
7 years ago
I wouldn’t be so dismissive.

I think it’s important to understand what’s in his head if we’re ever going to have a chance at stopping it in the future
izonfire
7 years ago
BTW - I refuse to respond to Phil as well
frankj1
7 years ago
a political philosopher he ain't.
izonfire
7 years ago

a political philosopher he ain't.

frankj1 wrote:



No, for me it’s about that comment he made last week.
He knows what it is.

Horrible
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
😰

not long ago we were treated to "The Jews will not replace us"

it's a mistake to consider any string of words from this POS as legitimate criticism of this country.
His conclusion on course of action is the way to define him.

edit:
not responding to you Phil. Just picking up on the theme you brought up.

frankj1 wrote:


I don't think anyone is suggesting you consider his criticisms legitimate... But to dismiss them without rebuttal is to chase them back into the shadows...

You might know why that book is full of bad ideas and you might know why those ideas are bad... But lots of people don't and a refusal to discuss it because it's white nationalist propaganda and white nationalist are bad - end of discussion, is exactly why those bad ideas end up on 8ch...
Phil222
7 years ago
No worries, Frank. He’s clearly very disturbed. I do think it’s important to try and understand why in order to prevent future attacks. If that is even a possibility. And this applies to all heinous acts.
frankj1
7 years ago

8-[
I don't think anyone is suggesting you consider his criticisms legitimate... But to dismiss them without rebuttal is to chase them back into the shadows...

You might know why that book is full of bad ideas and you might know why those ideas are bad... But lots of people don't and a refusal to discuss it because it's white nationalist propaganda and white nationalist are bad - end of discussion, is exactly why those bad ideas end up on 8ch...

opelmanta1900 wrote:


au contraire mon frere.
I have long pushed for and written here many a time that the Nazis should have a cable network included on a basic subscription.

I even went against popular opinion in supporting (and the ACLU's defense of) Nazi march in heavily Jewish Skokie IL years ago.

But I distinguish between large scale media showcasing of their ideas to avoid the festering of them in the shadows and the writings of a murdering azzwipe who has in fact been in the shadows trying to sound scholarly.
victor809
7 years ago
Not truly relevant for future attacks.
Each one of these guys is a special little snowflake...
To paraphrase Tolstoy and happy families, each of these mass murderers is crazy in his own way.

If we figure out that this one is unhappy about the environment and figures focusing on shooting immigrants is going to fix that, it doesn't help us prevent the next shooting. Because the next shooter will be unhappy about plummeting sales of tiki torches and think shooting Jews will fix that. And the one after will be unhappy about lack of coal jobs and think shooting the gays will fix that.

The commonality is very simple... They want to take their rage out on some group if "others". The details that make up their rage is irrelevant, because the next shooter (and there will be a lot of next shooters) will have different details.
frankj1
7 years ago

Not truly relevant for future attacks.
Each one of these guys is a special little snowflake...
To paraphrase Tolstoy and happy families, each of these mass murderers is crazy in his own way.

If we figure out that this one is unhappy about the environment and figures focusing on shooting immigrants is going to fix that, it doesn't help us prevent the next shooting. Because the next shooter will be unhappy about plummeting sales of tiki torches and think shooting Jews will fix that. And the one after will be unhappy about lack of coal jobs and think shooting the gays will fix that.

The commonality is very simple... They want to take their rage out on some group if "others". The details that make up their rage is irrelevant, because the next shooter (and there will be a lot of next shooters) will have different details.

victor809 wrote:


yes.
murderous crazies always believe they perceive a link...

izonfire
7 years ago

No worries, Frank. He’s clearly very disturbed. I do think it’s important to try and understand why in order to prevent future attacks. If that is even a possibility. And this applies to all heinous acts.

Phil222 wrote:



Including your post from last week
Phil222
7 years ago
Yes. All of them.
teedubbya
7 years ago
The more I look at this the more I’m convinced if it walks and talks like a white nationalist it just might be a white nationalist. I’d be more interested in separating myself from anyone parroting or supporting white nationalists than trying to separate this but bag from the white nationalists.

I’m going to go on a limb here. I think the white nationalists and their movement are sort of bad and I want nothing to do with them. Anywhere I overlap with their ideas is an area I probably need to re-examine. If some of my language mirrors theirs I may want to take a look at that too.

But we all have our own comfort levels.
frankj1
7 years ago

The more I look at this the more I’m convinced if it walks and talks like a white nationalist it just might be a white nationalist. I’d be more interested in separating myself from anyone parroting or supporting white nationalists than trying to separate this but bag from the white nationalists.

I’m going to go on a limb here. I think the white nationalists and their movement are sort of bad and I want nothing to do with them. Anywhere I overlap with their ideas is an area I probably need to re-examine. If some of my language mirrors theirs I may want to take a look at that too.

But we all have our own comfort levels.

teedubbya wrote:


radical, dude.
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