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JadeRose
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6 years ago

#61

I believe that everyone has a warm place in their heart

fishinguitarman wrote:

I genuinely hope that's true, Ray. As much as I despise Trump, the idea of being utterly joyless is a pathetic one.

fishinguitarman
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6 years ago

#62

We all have things we don’t like but true happiness unfortunately escapes some... yes it is truely sad

delta1
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6 years ago

#63

he said he got a great amount of pleasure when he was grabbing strange women's p*zzies...

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teedubbya
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6 years ago

#64

In fairness some of them were normal

frankj1
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6 years ago

#65

tough read on the word "lynching"...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/so-you-want-to-talk-about-lynching-understand-this-first/2019/10/23/c5a5fd2a-f5ae-11e9-ad8b-85e2aa00b5ce_story.html

delta1
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6 years ago

#66

I've read my limit of free articles at WaPo...

now, if I want to read one of their pieces, I have to subscribe...nope....too cheap...

I'm familiar with the vicious practice of lynching...Chinese immigrants in the late 19th and early 20th centuries were often targeted for violent, torturous and public deaths without cause or judicial process by white Americans...it was a way for bigots to threaten, intimidate or drive away different people from their communities...

hate filled attitudes that motivated such unspeakable behavior have been passed on to later generations and seem to persist in various forms among some nationalist groups...

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tailgater
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6 years ago

#67

tough read on the word "lynching"...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/so-you-want-to-talk-about-lynching-understand-this-first/2019/10/23/c5a5fd2a-f5ae-11e9-ad8b-85e2aa00b5ce_story.html

frankj1 wrote:

Why do people do this?

The meaning of words or phrases morph all the time.

If somebody says Lynch Mob, we know what they mean.
But the snowflakes will give it their own intent in an attempt to make a point.

I didn't read your link Frank. But I don't have to "understand this first" before I use a phrase.
It's ridiculous to think otherwise.

In other words, anyone can be butt-hurt by anything if they try hard enough.

So good effort. People TRYING to be offended have succeeded. Again.
But it's just one more step away from a productive discussion.

tailgater
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6 years ago

#68

Not sure how that connects to anything in my post but alrighty then.

teedubbya wrote:

LOL!
You're right.
That post was supposed to be a comment on the thread, not a reply to your post. Not sure how I screwed that up.

frankj1
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6 years ago

#69

tailgater wrote:

just wanna say that I was not hurt by the word. This did not stop me from being stunned to see the Prez use it for his situation.

I also thought the editorial was simply another protest of a word being co-opted (is that the word I want?). I learned how much deeper the meaning of this uniquely American word goes, how so many are barely one generation removed from the trauma. Lynch mobs didn't simply overpower the sheriff and string 'em up. So much worse it's hard to believe it still happened in our lifetimes.

Our lifetimes. Not to us though, or most of us here. I'd not presume to tell others how to feel about it.

We are free to use it, you aren't wrong. You're not wrong in any of your post. But reaction to painfully poor judgement should not be blamed on those affected. I'd save the word's use for a wildly extreme persecution and suffering if I were to liken my situation to it.

Gotta admit I do take notice when the word holocaust is used. Not deep pain, but I bet my father and his father would feel that.

So, this "snowflake" is not hurt, but amazed. And a bit disappointed.

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Speyside
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6 years ago

#70

So the Trump apology tour continues Tail? Tell a black man who had a family member lynched that it is fine to use the word because it now has a different meaning and they shouldn't be offended by it and they are a snowflake because they are defended by it. You will get your ass kicked. And you would deserve it for your racist attitude and comment.

Abrignac
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6 years ago

#71

Speyside wrote:

So tell us why it’s ok for Dems to use “lynching” with impunity.

DrafterX
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6 years ago

#72

Double standard... 😟

Speyside
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6 years ago

#73

No, you tell me why it is ok for Trump to use the word. Also instead of asking a worthless generalization, find and quote the specific instances you want me to reference. Then I will be happy to otherwise you are doing your usual form of generalized BS. Drafter, get specific.

DrafterX
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6 years ago

#74

If you choose to ignore the news that's on you.. or you can google... 😟

fishinguitarman
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6 years ago

#75

Freak😯

delta1
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6 years ago

#76

the outrage over the "outrage" is over the top...I didn't see much push-back on Trump's use of the word initially, prolly because there was more serious news on the impeachment front...

it just seems that Trump purposely pushes racially sensitive buttons, and when people respond as expected, he says they're wrong because he had something totally different on his mind when he thought about the term...I didn't muster much offense after his original tweet, but was amused that he used a lynching of a German to say he didn't know he was being offensive to anyone.....his way of saying "sorry white people who were lynched, but not you black people...take that"

the hillarity level ramped up when he doubled down on his "I'm a victim" whine by saying he's gonna substitute "lynching" for "being crucified like Jesus"...this is more entertaining than his worn out TV show....jeezus, marry and jessup, this is funny chit...

this seems like the reverse of an incident earlier this year...Trump's peeps were highly offended when their hero was called "a M-Fer" in public, in front of kids, fer chrissakes...

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frankj1
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6 years ago

#77

not sure I was clear. All are allowed to use it, it is a word, and yes, it has morphed...but morphed more by softening/sanitizing the meaning in very recent times (not several decades or centuries) to the point that many may not know of its roots.

Yes, I said roots. I know. I know...

The real word is one I would use more selectively than many other words that would have been more accurate in this case, though less reactionary, (which may be the actual reason for its use?)

maybe "I'm being persecuted" would have been more correct. Still stronger than needed but completely clean of any unnecessary and inaccurate claim of a connection to painful history.

Just my feelings...cuz I'm good wif words.

tailgater
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6 years ago

#78

Speyside wrote:

I knew you were racist, but I've not witnessed you being so blatant about it.
Until now.

From suggesting that only a black man would have a family member who was lynched, to making the assumption that a black man would be able to kick my azz. Why? Because if he's black he must be tough?

You really stepped it this time.
You see color where it doesn't belong.

That's called harboring racist viewpoints.
Which is what racists do.

And no. I don't think you view black people in a dim manner. Simply that you choose to use a person's color to define them.

I'm not sure why I'd ever use the term "lynch mob", but if I did I'll tell you one thing for sure: the color of the person I'm speaking with won't matter one iota.
It's a shame you feel compelled to consider a person's color prior to having a conversation, and that you feel obligated to choose your words carefully depending on your audience.
I'd truly hate to go through life like that.
It's sad.

frankj1
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6 years ago

#79

despite all I have said above, I'm fairly certain I have used the term "lynch mob" more than once in my life.
perhaps to add an amount of alarm to a situation being discussed? Not sure, though it feels likely.

there's no hiding from the fact that the English language has a multitude of words that mean the same thing, but many of those words have meanings nuanced by differing connotations that add or subtract from the clinical definition...not all add or subtract emotional reaction on the part of the reader or audience (eg wet, moist, damp, soaked) and so are not truly interchangeable.

delta1
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6 years ago

#80

#98

there is a power dynamic in the form of racism that spey is talking about that is lacking in the racism tail is talking about...

when minorities are mistreated by a ruling majority that establishes societal constructs to favor themselves at the expense of the minority, that is the despicable racism that is at the root of racism in America...

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