fishinguitarman
6 years ago
Hitler that posts on Twitter?

Once again you show how anti American you are. It’s pitiful and sad and disgusting all at the same time
delta1
6 years ago

The one that cautions against using impeachment for partisan reasons.

Abrignac wrote:



it was the Federalist Paper 65... here's a paragraph which argues for the need on the impeachement power to restrain the executive and an argument to use the example of impeachment that exists in Great Britain...highlighted sentence says that impeachment is a means check the executive...

"What, it may be asked, is the true spirit of the institution itself? Is it not designed as a method of NATIONAL INQUEST into the conduct of public men? If this be the design of it, who can so properly be the inquisitors for the nation as the representatives of the nation themselves? It is not disputed that the power of originating the inquiry, or, in other words, of preferring the impeachment, ought to be lodged in the hands of one branch of the legislative body. Will not the reasons which indicate the propriety of this arrangement strongly plead for an admission of the other branch of that body to a share of the inquiry? The model from which the idea of this institution has been borrowed, pointed out that course to the convention. In Great Britain it is the province of the House of Commons to prefer the impeachment, and of the House of Lords to decide upon it. Several of the State constitutions have followed the example. As well the latter, as the former, seem to have regarded the practice of impeachments as a bridle in the hands of the legislative body upon the executive servants of the government. Is not this the true light in which it ought to be regarded?"

his statements in that essay are about how impeachments would work is a prediction, moreso than an argument against impeachment...
Brewha
6 years ago

I’m gonna take a hot bath. Brewha care to join me?💅

fishinguitarman wrote:


WTF?
DrMaddVibe
6 years ago

it was the Federalist Paper 65... here's a paragraph which argues for the need on the impeachement power to restrain the executive and an argument to use the example of impeachment that exists in Great Britain...highlighted sentence says that impeachment is a means check the executive...

"What, it may be asked, is the true spirit of the institution itself? Is it not designed as a method of NATIONAL INQUEST into the conduct of public men? If this be the design of it, who can so properly be the inquisitors for the nation as the representatives of the nation themselves? It is not disputed that the power of originating the inquiry, or, in other words, of preferring the impeachment, ought to be lodged in the hands of one branch of the legislative body. Will not the reasons which indicate the propriety of this arrangement strongly plead for an admission of the other branch of that body to a share of the inquiry? The model from which the idea of this institution has been borrowed, pointed out that course to the convention. In Great Britain it is the province of the House of Commons to prefer the impeachment, and of the House of Lords to decide upon it. Several of the State constitutions have followed the example. As well the latter, as the former, seem to have regarded the practice of impeachments as a bridle in the hands of the legislative body upon the executive servants of the government. Is not this the true light in which it ought to be regarded?"

his statements in that essay are about how impeachments would work is a prediction, moreso than an argument against impeachment...

delta1 wrote:



65 details the body that will hear the case in an impartial manner. It wasn't entered for the need of impeachment. They feared our government would be out of control and that is why it's typed the way it is with the government actually being a negative on almost everything except for Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. He used the House of Commons as an example. It was and still is a corrupt "House of Cards". 66 goes a little bit deeper. You can't just type in a google search and cram what you want into the Federalist Papers. These were the documents that the Founders used to illustrate what the Constitution would behave like so the citizens could petition for any necessary changes.
delta1
6 years ago
exactly...we agree that the Framers intent/purpose when constructing the constitution as a framework for the new republic was to limit government...

this essay discusses why the legislative branch should be entrusted with the power of impeachment over the executive branch...

it does not say that impeachment shouldn't be used in specific cases...just that it's use would be political...
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