Speyside
Thursday, March 19, 2020 10:39:25 PM
Mittens, the problem is just 6 people. The next 6 could all die. We don't have time for the FDA red tape and stop signs, but we have to know the stuff works before giving it to masses of people.
izonfire
Thursday, March 19, 2020 11:19:12 PM

Fauci just took my optimism away. I don’t think there is a magic pill.

Sorry.

teedubbya wrote:

No sorries brother.

I wanted to believe it.

Not giving up hope,

but preparing for the worst

Pudding Mittens
Friday, March 20, 2020 12:20:14 AM
.

A pal called me and mentioned that Africa has a very, very low number of coronavirus cases.... and he noted that it also makes very widespread use of chloroquine / hydroxychloroquine both to prevent and treat malaria.

Of course there are other factors aplenty:

1. have fewer people from infected nations traveled to Africa?

2. population density issues

3. frequency/range of intracontinent travel by the population

4. frequency and amount of close-range socializing there

5. genetic differences

6. probable severe lack of testing in many areas

7. etc. etc. etc.

...but hmmmmm.... it's mighty interesting, isn't it?

Some areas of Africa use it more than others. I would LOVE to see an analysis of coronavirus cases by region compared to chloroquine / hydroxychloroquine usage levels by region, for all of Africa. That'd be very interesting indeed. What if the areas with the least cases take the stuff the most and vice-versa?

Just now they had a prominent M.D. on Fox News Channel being interviewed, and he seemed very optimistic about hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, pointing out that not only did it cure 100% of the six people in the small French study, but that other recent studies in China and Australia had shown impressive effects as well. It's not just the small French study!

He also confirmed that yes, both these drugs are easy and cheap to make in massive amounts quickly.

Let's hope this is the real deal, guys!

Fauci just took my optimism away. I don’t think there is a magic pill.

Sorry.

teedubbya wrote:

Fauci takes everyone's optimism away. He tends toward the negative side of things.... which is good sometimes. But he doesn't know anything more than anyone else about this two-drug combination yet. We need a bigger study, and we're going to get it soon. Then we'll know.

Mittens, the problem is just 6 people. The next 6 could all die.

Speyside wrote:

Six at 100% cure PLUS similar results out of China and Australia, and again oddly Africa is barely hit... is it other factors, or the fact that lots of them take chloroquine / hydroxychloroquine already?

These extra data points make the six cured people a bit more compelling.

Wait and see though. Trump has mentioned that it's full-steam-ahead on this, so let's see what shakes out.

We don't have time for the FDA red tape and stop signs, but we have to know the stuff works before giving it to masses of people.

Not if they have little left to lose and are willing to sign waivers.

.

izonfire
Friday, March 20, 2020 12:30:07 AM
I’ll follow the green line...
USNGunner
Friday, March 20, 2020 12:40:03 AM

I’ll follow the green mile...

izonfire wrote:

Yeah, probably. We'll miss you. 🤔

izonfire
Friday, March 20, 2020 12:45:09 AM

Yeah, probably. We'll miss you. 🤔

USNGunner wrote:

Oh, I’m taking you with me brother...

victor809
Friday, March 20, 2020 2:58:19 PM

.

A pal called me and mentioned that Africa has a very, very low number of coronavirus cases.... and he noted that it also makes very widespread use of chloroquine / hydroxychloroquine both to prevent and treat malaria.

.

Pudding Mittens wrote:

Could be as simple as they aren't testing. You'd be amazed at how many people in your population can not die of a disease if you never verify they had it.

MACS
Friday, March 20, 2020 3:16:10 PM
I'm pretty much convinced that when I go back to work next week it's probably a foregone conclusion.

I also don't think it'll kill me because I'm relatively healthy and have no immune system issues.

ZRX1200
Friday, March 20, 2020 3:25:53 PM
Or it could be there’s more heat there in Africa right now making it more difficult for the virus to survive outside a host
victor809
Friday, March 20, 2020 5:20:00 PM
Peanutbutter.

Putting this somewhere else

teedubbya
Friday, March 20, 2020 5:24:26 PM
Or there could be no established causality and we are grasping at straws for something hopeful.
8trackdisco
Friday, March 20, 2020 5:41:10 PM

I'm pretty much convinced that when I go back to work next week it's probably a foregone conclusion.

I also don't think it'll kill me because I'm relatively healthy and have no immune system issues.

MACS wrote:

Why exactly are you going back to work at a place where....

- you hate it

- dangerous

- corona hot spot

- and you are quitting in 6 weeks anyway.

You Sir..... are a blooming idiot.

Offense intended.

victor809
Friday, March 20, 2020 5:45:28 PM
Oh don't get upset at MaCS. He might survive.
8trackdisco
Friday, March 20, 2020 6:02:43 PM

Oh don't get upset at MaCS. He might survive.

victor809 wrote:

I’m more concerned for you.......

victor809
Friday, March 20, 2020 6:03:52 PM

I’m more concerned for you.......

8trackdisco wrote:

I'm worried I might survive too.

8trackdisco
Friday, March 20, 2020 6:05:24 PM
Oh no!.... Wisconsin has lost their minds. They are mandating the closure of ......... massage parlors.

With all the stresses, massages are critical. A good massage... hell, even a bad one!

victor809
Friday, March 20, 2020 6:06:12 PM

Oh no!.... Wisconsin has lost their minds. They are mandating the closure of ......... massage parlors.

With all the stresses, hand jobs are critical. A good hand job... hell, even a bad one!

8trackdisco wrote:

FIFY

MACS
Friday, March 20, 2020 6:06:15 PM

Why exactly are you going back to work at a place where....

- you hate it

- dangerous

- corona hot spot

- and you are retiring in 8 weeks anyway.

You Sir..... are a blooming idiot.

Offense intended.

8trackdisco wrote:

Fixed that for you...

If I go back and work the last 2 months, it'll go by quickly, and even if they're only paying me 50% of my sick time when I retire... it's still $7,500-$8,000 and it'll go into my 401a along with my vacation time. That's a fat chunk o change when you add them together, buddy. And since I won't be contributing to my investments after May 20 it'll max me out for CY2020 when you add my cash-outs to what I've put in so far.

8trackdisco
Friday, March 20, 2020 6:06:47 PM

I'm worried I might survive too.

victor809 wrote:

Prayers sent?:-s

rfenst
Friday, March 20, 2020 6:08:48 PM
It took all three of her children (one a pediatrician) to convince my 81 mother to stop working. She's part-time at an auto dealership that must be a petri dish. Hope she gets her job back...