He could have mobilized resources in January when folks were urging him to.

He could have realized this isn’t the flu as folks were trying to tell him and seen it for what it is. Folks were trying to get his attention. (We only have 15 cases and it should be close to zero soon)

I can’t say it enough. This isn’t a surprise and isn’t unbelievable. Another will come. But his mantra is it’s a surprise and unbelievable.

He tore down Obama era plans because well. Obama.

His bs cost us this time. Bigly.

I could go on but you really don’t want to know and can’t be convinced. He’s normally a bumbling fool and it’s embarrassing. This time we were damaged MORE because of him. It’s not his fault but it’s worse because of him.

At present, nobody on my team is even sick.

Cops, fire, doctors, nurses...

Very cool.

I rarely do the Costco thing, but Meijers (big box store in the midwest) gives us an hour on Monday and Wednesday mornings. And they enforce it, you need your badge to get in.

I went last Monday and it was nice. Huge line outside when I walked out at 0755.

Very nice gesture.

No. It won't.

This is going to be with us well into the summer before we even start to think we're getting a handle on things.

Wasn't your entire comment because frank specifically called out my name in a question?

Wouldn't that imply you should have "stayed out of our conversation"?

Or do rules only apply to other people in your head?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220301145?via%3Dihub 

It's very short, and very easy to read. Bottom line?

There have been about 6 different in-vitro studies showing antiviral effects of chloroquinone

but every time the studies are moved to in vivo, they fail to show any effect.

In two of the animal studies it actually made the infection worse due to some specific properties of the drug

The authors note the studies going on in china now, and are encouraging the release of preliminary data as soon as possible.

The authors also note the very narrow toxic range of chloroquinone (this is how idiots who try to prescribe for themselves end up in critical care. It has very little to do with the source of the material, aquarium or not)

I know you guys want to be hopeful and sh$t. But I don't see a real reason to be yet.

Giving it to the sick ones to try to do something.

But its certainly not the miracle cure touted

I'm thinking it's the same reason people tout some of those cold cures.

With a certain percentage of people who are sick, given time, they get better.

"I had the cold and took that zinc de-snotifier! In 5 days I was better!"

..... Huh. Most people get better in 5 days.

"I had the coronavirus and took Puddin's Patented Pulmonary PeP and I got better!" ...

.... quick, go on Fox News and tell everyone!

(let's ignore the people who took it and didn't get better in almost the exact percentage of the illness mortality)

This is why double blinded studies have to be done for any actual believable data

It's always critical to use genuine placebo for reliable results.

We all want TREATMENT.

But there is none.

It's a function of how this virus works. It directly destroys lung cells in its replication cycle. It's like a fast track to emphysema - consolidating airspaces into cavities that no longer work. Then the body's reaction to the dead cells ends up with tissue swelling and further damage.

Initial viral load seems to be a deciding factor for those of us that are getting exposed. Get a small load and the body can react properly, create antibodies, and fight it off. But if you take in a large load up front, the tissue destruction in the lungs is too great to fight off, as that is the first step in the virus's attack. Once your lungs are fried, they're fried, and you're fuxxed.

Of course. But trials take time, people are dying, this stuff looks like it works, and it's relatively safe for most people especially at the short 5-day treatment course they're using for COVID-19 (and of course docs can exclude the rare people who shouldn't have it) and safety testing for "catastrophic effects" was completed decades ago.

Risk vs. benefit, exigent circumstances, all that. Do the studies, but don't wait for them, in this particular case.

Also, think we're repeating this same stuff at this point, so I'm gonna stop.

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Yeah. Doom, gloom, and pessimism don't help anyone. Hell, there's enough of that now. 😣