Not necessary. You’ve confirmed what I suspected. Trump uses powers vested to his office, people get butthurt and accuse him of being 1000 kinds of evil because they disagree with a lawful directive.

Abrignac wrote:

You relies that everything Hitler did was by lawful directive, right?

But the German people did not get butt hurt - cause they rounded up them that spoke out....

Brewha wrote:

It seems the official liberal line is to pull the Federal law enforcement out (because Trump).

OK, pull them out and evacuate the Federal buildings. Portland PD and Portland FD will watch the buildings burn.

Option 1: is this now an insurrection?

Option 2: don’t rebuild. Transfer the court and all Federal services out of Portland. Now when people need federal services like Social Security they will need to drive a bit.

HockeyDad wrote:

here's a definition of "fascism": knock yourself out...

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, as well as strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe

delta1 wrote:

I heard George Bush hated black peoples... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

Why thank you. Let’s see.

1) Define far right? What threshold separates far right from right. Or is anything right of center car right?
2) Define ultranationalism. What separates ultra from plain? See above.
3) What examples can you highlight that shows suppression of opposition? Slippery slow if anything?
4) Ditto for strong regimentation of society.

Please be specific. Otherwise, it an opinion consistent with political talking points.

Abrignac wrote:

wth??? what language do people speak where you're from? Slippery slow?


that definition was written using simple everyday English

delta1 wrote:

He could also use Ross Perot's campaign song.

tonygraz wrote:

The constitution.only allows Federal troops to be deployed to a state on the request of the governor or the state legislature. Then again, when does the federal government ever obey the original intent of the constitution? Hmmm?
The Democrats and Republicans are no different.

RayR wrote:

The head of the US Department of Homeland Security has said: "I don't need invitations by the state, state mayors, or state governors to do our job. We're going to do that, whether they like us there or not."

The federal government has a right to protect federal property - and a 2002 law (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/40/1315) details that federal officers can be deployed for "the protection of property owned or occupied by the federal government".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52893540 

DrMaddVibe wrote:

I showed where the Constitution can and has been bypassed by Federal law enacted in 2002. Not the 1st time either.

It clearly pertains to why they're there and why they extended their perimeter.

I'm all for the Federal government pulling out of the the city and the county. ALL OF IT. Every service and office shut down until law and order can be maintained.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Nationalists have been working at circumventing the original meaning of the Constitution since day one, starting with Alexander Hamilton and his ring of cronies, whittling away at the system of federalism as it was intended to be in the Constitutional Republic and replacing it with a centralized authority in the capitol and transforming it into a Nation State.
It follows the the boiled frog metaphor, gradual changes and usurpation of powers through the generations so that most people don't even notice or understand what happened.
This happens not only at the level of the general government but also at the level of state governments, the US Constitution as ratified by the original 13 sovereign states guaranteed each state a republican form of government but at various speeds each state has been destroying their republican form of government from within.

RayR wrote: