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RayR
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5 years ago

#121

If black and brown folk want to quit getting sh*t on, they should pick better company. Hanging with a bunch of violent, hate mongering commie community organizers ain't exactly a recipe for garnering respect and empathy. I think the drop in support shows even armchair allies are waking up to the reality of what it is.

And how about those BLM protests? I always noticed an awful lot of the participants are white as rice. It seems all the research always backs that up. Do they really have empathy for the cause or is it just an occasion to display their Trump is Hitler painting and write on streets and sidewalks? Some people just need to fit in some place and feel virtuous.
Regardless of the color thing, only a person with a IQ of 50 would march under the banner of a communist organization who is anti-communist, which means they really don't have a clue what this organization is really all about, which is fomenting racial/class warfare, the Marxist way!
But it's even more simple minded than that, they march for a three word slogan, one that's supposed to represent police brutality toward blacks. But would they march for a 5 year old black kid in Chicago that got shot in the head in a drive by? Nope! They wouldn't get off the couch, not worth burning down a city for. I guess his life doesn't matter as much, and black on black crimes don't incite the rage of the inner Bolshevik savage, it just doesn't work with the systemic racism angle either, it just doesn't have that visual impact of the proletariat vs. the bourgeoisie needed for pushing the Marxist agenda.

https://thenewamerican.com/research-indicates-that-more-blm-protestors-are-white-than-black/

bgz
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

#122

I don't have time now for a thorough response, but your first paragraph seemed to insinuate the only way for brown people to not get f*cked with is to hang with white people... lol.

Nice one

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

#123

I don't have time now for a thorough response, but your first paragraph seemed to insinuate the only way for brown people to not get f*cked with is to hang with white people... lol.

Nice one

bgz wrote:

Interesting...I didn’t see that from the first paragraph. Sometimes being woke misfires.

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

#124

And how about those BLM protests? I always noticed an awful lot of the participants are white as rice. It seems all the research always backs that up. Do they really have empathy for the cause or is it just an occasion to display their Trump is Hitler painting and write on streets and sidewalks? Some people just need to fit in some place and feel virtuous.

RayR wrote:

Many suffer greatly from the secular Original Sin of white privilege. There is no better way to try to seek atonement for this than by joining a BLM rally.

RayR
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5 years ago

#125

Interesting...I didn’t see that from the first paragraph. Sometimes being woke misfires.

HockeyDad wrote:

Yup bgz's wokeness is a problem. Wokeness induces seeing covert racist insinuations in every dialog I guess.

RayR
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

5 years ago

#126

Many suffer greatly from the secular Original Sin of white privilege. There is no better way to try to seek atonement for this than by joining a BLM rally.

HockeyDad wrote:

That's a good way to put it, kind of like self-flagellation as penance for all white sinfulness.

bgz
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

#127

Interesting...I didn’t see that from the first paragraph. Sometimes being woke misfires.

HockeyDad wrote:

First time I've ever been called "woke"... I think you're applying that term to me the same way you would apply it to white people (tbh, I'm not sure of it's origins).

I gave a real world example of a real world event... so I guess if that "woke" me when I was in college... sure. Dude that got arrested was some guy I played basketball with, I wasn't apart of his stupid sh*t.

Yup bgz's wokeness is a problem. Wokeness induces seeing covert racist insinuations in every dialog I guess....

Rewind... the first paragraph in question:

If black and brown folk want to quit getting sh*t on, they should pick better company. Hanging with a bunch of violent, hate mongering commie community organizers ain't exactly a recipe for garnering respect and empathy. I think the drop in support shows even armchair allies are waking up to the reality of what it is.

"RayRay" wrote:

Ok, let me explain this to you... the cities have police forces... they're populated with (but not exclusively with) action junkies that live in the burbs (I know this because I know some of said action junkies). The police that come from the burbs are "outsiders".

They police the areas that are predominantly one color or another or a mix of colors... but there's not a lot of white people. Then people get f*cked with by the cops... you match a description of someone of some report (riiiigggghhttt... you know how many times I've heard that sh*t?)...

Raise one eyebrow at all, your azz goes down to the ground... you're copping an attitude.

This sh*t wouldn't happen to you RayRay... it just won't... it's real though, sh*t's real.

Anyway, to this very real world problem, your solution is for them to hang with better company.

There, it's explained.

Again, I'm not arguing their platform for them, but you clearly don't know what they're protesting for.

Now, assuming what I said is true... in your mind is that something worth protesting about? All I'm trying to do is to get you to see the other side, if you don't understand it, all you will ever do is point your finger at it and hate it.

One thing I don't do is criticize someone for utilizing their constitutional right to free speech. I might not agree with them, but I think if there's an issue they feel is worth fighting for, then they should.

Speyside
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

#128

Meh, let them post their POV and ignore it unless you enjoy pointing out their POV flaws and lack of facts. I could care less. If we had someone from the looney left posting here they would also have flawed factless POVS.

Smooth light
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5 years ago

#129

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RayR
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

5 years ago

#130

bgz, you've been duped, you can go march alongside Mitt Romney at a protest and pretend its about action junkies muscling
innocent poo folk of color. I'll say it again, you can pick better company if that's your beef.
You clearly don't understand the Marxist agenda, everything they do and claim publicly is a smokescreen to cover their true intentions.

Vasko Kohlmayer, who grew up in Communist Czechoslovakia knows how they operate. What the left stream media tells you about BLM is Kool-Aid they expect you to drink deep:

... Even as America was being torn apart by the most violent internal upheaval in its history – which the insurance industry declared “a catastrophe” across multiple states – many people had no real idea of what was happening, thanks to the successful concealment efforts of the mainstream media outlets.

The media was deftly seconded by leftist intellectuals who provided both justification and cover. Among the many examples we could list, we just mention the world-renowned academic Noam Chomsky who managed to utter the following words with a completely straight face:

“The Black Lives Matter protests which is a huge, incredible development: the biggest social movement in American history. A huge number of people involved spontaneously, solidarity black and white together, constructive goals, develop good programs, really great things happening… At the fringes they are people who are breaking windows, intimidating somebody at the restaurant… Things like this shouldn’t be happening, but that’s not what’s going on. What’s going on is a massive, non-violent, constructive social movement.”

That was a blatant lie by Professor Chomsky.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/11/vasko-kohlmayer/the-lefts-final-objective-is-subversion-of-western-civilization/

Edited by user 5 years ago | Reason: Not specified

DrMaddVibe
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5 years ago

#131

So do you believe all black people that protest are also marxist?

Almost all black people are sympathetic to the blm cause (right to not get killed randomly by police)...

But it's more than that... it's more about being treated without respect or empathy from those that truely believe they are dealing with an inferior race... which simply isn't true.

I've seen it when I was young. I wasn't black, but I would get messed with all the time. One time when I was young, my buddy had a warrant and they were waiting for him. They had guns on me slamming me up on my car, while the one white kid in the car was standing there with his hands in his pockets.... with that said, my stories ain't sh*t compared to my black friend's stories.

Seriously, if I ever put my hands in my pockets in the presence of police I would be dead. Brown people get taught how to act in front of police when they're kids... it's referred to as the talk... This sh*t ain't opinion... it's real, it happens. It's about being treated like a human... not asking for much.

So just because the leaders might have marxist views, it doesn't mean all the protesters feel the same... just means they want to quit getting sh*t on by outsiders.

With that, in this day in age, as long as you're polite, you're unlikely to die in an altercation... but you're still unlikely to be treated with respect... unfortunatly from my persective, the police profession tends to attract the billy badass types that like to flex on you (I'm sure I'll hear about this one on yhe vherf).

Anyway, you're still making blanked statements on a huge portion of the population... you talk about them like they're not human. You talk about them like they're some hive minded organism...

Therein lies the reason why I f*ck with you so much... you're an absolutist who generalizes everything to dehumanize anyone who isn't like you. You're a finger pointer...

bgz wrote:

Sounds like someone didn't really research what BLM stands for before they went chips all in.

This is from another post here where I went to their OWN website. I cut and pasted it verbatim with the last paragraph added by me. It's since been scrubbed off of theirs. I wonder why? Why would they do that? Here, give it a read...

https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

What We Believe

Four years ago, what is now known as the Black Lives Matter Global Network began to organize. It started out as a chapter-based, member-led organization whose mission was to build local power and to intervene when violence was inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes.

In the years since, we’ve committed to struggling together and to imagining and creating a world free of anti-Blackness, where every Black person has the social, economic, and political power to thrive.

Black Lives Matter began as a call to action in response to state-sanctioned violence and anti-Black racism. Our intention from the very beginning was to connect Black people from all over the world who have a shared desire for justice to act together in their communities. The impetus for that commitment was, and still is, the rampant and deliberate violence inflicted on us by the state.

Enraged by the death of Trayvon Martin and the subsequent acquittal of his killer, George Zimmerman, and inspired by the 31-day takeover of the Florida State Capitol by POWER U and the Dream Defenders, we took to the streets. A year later, we set out together on the Black Lives Matter Freedom Ride to Ferguson, in search of justice for Mike Brown and all of those who have been torn apart by state-sanctioned violence and anti-Black racism. Forever changed, we returned home and began building the infrastructure for the Black Lives Matter Global Network, which, even in its infancy, has become a political home for many.

Ferguson helped to catalyze a movement to which we’ve all helped give life. Organizers who call this network home have ousted anti-Black politicians, won critical legislation to benefit Black lives, and changed the terms of the debate on Blackness around the world. Through movement and relationship building, we have also helped catalyze other movements and shifted culture with an eye toward the dangerous impacts of anti-Blackness.

These are the results of our collective efforts.

The Black Lives Matter Global Network is as powerful as it is because of our membership, our partners, our supporters, our staff, and you. Our continued commitment to liberation for all Black people means we are continuing the work of our ancestors and fighting for our collective freedom because it is our duty.

Every day, we recommit to healing ourselves and each other, and to co-creating alongside comrades, allies, and family a culture where each person feels seen, heard, and supported.

We acknowledge, respect, and celebrate differences and commonalities.

We work vigorously for freedom and justice for Black people and, by extension, all people.

We intentionally build and nurture a beloved community that is bonded together through a beautiful struggle that is restorative, not depleting.

We are unapologetically Black in our positioning. In affirming that Black Lives Matter, we need not qualify our position. To love and desire freedom and justice for ourselves is a prerequisite for wanting the same for others.

We see ourselves as part of the global Black family, and we are aware of the different ways we are impacted or privileged as Black people who exist in different parts of the world.

We are guided by the fact that all Black lives matter, regardless of actual or perceived sexual identity, gender identity, gender expression, economic status, ability, disability, religious beliefs or disbeliefs, immigration status, or location.

We make space for transgender brothers and sisters to participate and lead.

We are self-reflexive and do the work required to dismantle cisgender privilege and uplift Black trans folk, especially Black trans women who continue to be disproportionately impacted by trans-antagonistic violence.

We build a space that affirms Black women and is free from sexism, misogyny, and environments in which men are centered.

We practice empathy. We engage comrades with the intent to learn about and connect with their contexts.

We make our spaces family-friendly and enable parents to fully participate with their children. We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.

We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

We foster a queer‐affirming network. When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking, or rather, the belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).

We cultivate an intergenerational and communal network free from ageism. We believe that all people, regardless of age, show up with the capacity to lead and learn.

We embody and practice justice, liberation, and peace in our engagements with one another.[/i]

Anyone following this lunacy is a complete and abject moron. Follow the money and it's virtually a DNC piggybank. If you think for one second you're supporting some cause, you are...a terrorist cause that wants to rip down the framework of our country. Get your minds right, because this crap...it will NEVER end well.

[/b][/i]

Now, do you for a complete minute believe that most Black Americans believe in that? It sounds more like a hot angry mob that wants street justice because everything they're basing the BLM movement on is based on a bunch of dumbass people doing dumbass things that cause the police to shut it down. Rioting doesn't help them. It only destroys their own towns where they have to live in a bigger craphole because of their riots! Once the judicial system is done hearing their cases then they whip it all up again because they didn't like the outcomes. Facts meet Reality. If you want to call that racism, then jump in the next riot with all the other white kids and break stuff, just don't forget your rainbow boa either. I don't know one rational thinking and productive person of color that supports BLM. It's a joke. They want to rip apart America so they can put in their system. Seeing as how they describe themselves as Marxist trained socialists...yeah...no. Nice try.

bgz
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5 years ago

#132

Hmmm... dmv missed my point on this one too. .

Several times I said I'm not defending nor promoting their platform. I'm merely defending their right to speak.

Nor have I made any claim in defense of looting or rioting.

RayRay... you make assumptions about me, but I guess I do the same for you.

You assume I'm a commie liberal, I assume you're a racist ammo hoarder.

Fair.

Smooth light
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

#133

Dumb white kids go to the city to buy drugs, their easier to get there, and they won't get recognized doing it, and other immoral activities either.
Plus that's were the action is.
What would you choose,mom basement/riding downtown to riot?

delta1
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

#134

here's the latest statement of what BLM is "about"...seems, like many organizations, the first attempt to create a mission statement needed editing to be more precise...

About
#BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, Inc. is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives.

We are expansive. We are a collective of liberators who believe in an inclusive and spacious movement. We also believe that in order to win and bring as many people with us along the way, we must move beyond the narrow nationalism that is all too prevalent in Black communities. We must ensure we are building a movement that brings all of us to the front.

We affirm the lives of Black queer and trans folks, disabled folks, undocumented folks, folks with records, women, and all Black lives along the gender spectrum. Our network centers those who have been marginalized within Black liberation movements.

We are working for a world where Black lives are no longer systematically targeted for demise.

We affirm our humanity, our contributions to this society, and our resilience in the face of deadly oppression.

The call for Black lives to matter is a rallying cry for ALL Black lives striving for liberation.

RayR
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

5 years ago

#135

Ya, well Demo-Bolsheviks groups are like that, they get carried away on their mission statements and have to tone them down a bit. They have to hide the best they can that they are systematically targeting the demise of capitalism and Western civilization.

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

#136

bgz wrote:

No, I don't believe I missed a thing.

Go back and read what you wrote. I firmly believe that most people were taken off their heels when you read what THEY are about.

Enough with the rest of your crap. I just don't GAF. You want to speak...do it. You want to paint with broad brushes...naw.

bgz
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

#137

So it's only ok for you and RayRay to paint with broad brushes (well mainly RayRay... he's got the broadest brush)?

I'm not even sure why you're in this battle, unless I touched a nerve or something... not even sure what I said that makes you think that they should be off their heels when they read what THEY are about... who?

Who is they? I wrote a lot of things... I didn't speak for anyone, I didn't make a claim for a 100% generalization of any group... in fact, I specifically avoided doing so... so if I made an absolutist statement... by all means, point me to it... unless it was an absolutist statement against RayRay, then it's valid, lol... unless you're RayRay, which at this point I find likely and is the reason you're getting bent... you RayRay dmv? You smooth light?

RayR
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5 years ago

#138

You don't like my brush bgz? I don't give Marxists any benefit of the doubt that their intentions might be noble. They are the things they believe in.
If you give any collectivists the benefit of the doubt that they have good intentions, you get Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Mussolini, Chavez, Pol Pot etc....

bgz
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5 years ago

#139

Your brush is big in general...

Again... for the last time... I'm not arguing anyone's position for them. The constitution doesn't say you are only allowed freedom of speech if your views align with slave owning land owners.

Your rhetoric suggests that you believe they shouldn't be afforded free speech because they're views are too far left. Only when pressed did you finally in the most begrudgingly way possible, said... let them speak.

I get it... you don't agree with them... that's fine... I just think using dehumanization as way to justify that they should not be afforded the same rights as other protesters (say abortion protesters)... implies that you are not truly what you say you are.

RayR
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5 years ago

#140

bgz wrote:

My brush is bigger than your brush, you're just jealous.

Ya, they have the right to speak, but that doesn't mean I have to respect their speech, their intentions or their violent actions.
I have the equal right to speak and expose them for what they really are. But they make it easy, Marxists just can't keep their mouths shut about their evil goals.[spank]

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