Ok, what is it about mRNA that gives you concern. If it’s that it new, it not. This research is decades old. They studied it for treatment of flu, Zika, rabies, and cytomegalovirus.

That fact that something is the first, or as this the first widely used, in itself is not grounds for much concern - not where over a million deaths have occurred.

Now you may say that you don’t trust the FDA. But is it really that?

Me, I’m an engineer not a biochemist. I have no depth in messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA) vaccine.

But I do know that you and I use DNA and RNA as the foundations of our lives. Using a nucleic acid as a messenger to tell your immune system what protein to produce to fight an infection seems relatively straight forward - engineering how to make it is the new magic trick - not the mRNA itself.

I don’t blame you for not trusting the govmut.
We all should think for ourselves and play the odds.
But I struggle to see the concern you have.

Brewha wrote:

Ok, what is it about mRNA that gives you concern. If it’s that it new, it not. This research is decades old. They studied it for treatment of flu, Zika, rabies, and cytomegalovirus.

That fact that something is the first, or as this the first widely used, in itself is not grounds for much concern - not where over a million deaths have occurred.

Now you may say that you don’t trust the FDA. But is it really that?

Me, I’m an engineer not a biochemist. I have no depth in messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA) vaccine.

But I do know that you and I use DNA and RNA as the foundations of our lives. Using a nucleic acid as a messenger to tell your immune system what protein to produce to fight an infection seems relatively straight forward - engineering how to make it is the new magic trick - not the mRNA itself.

I don’t blame you for not trusting the govmut.
We all should think for ourselves and play the odds.
But I struggle to see the concern you have.

Brewha wrote:

With the masking conversation ramping up I’m starting to think the VACCINE DOES NOT WORK!

HockeyDad wrote:

Yet it has never made it out of the research labs or have been used on humans until now. I ask again, and again, and again... Name one vaccine that has been approved using the mRNA technology. It's not a government thing or political thing for me. Looking to the science and self proclaimed experts to answer this simple question (crickets...)

It's only qualified for emergency use only but the public has been led down a path that it's the cure all from the COVID so inject as many people without any screening or anything. You are injecting a substance into your body that cannot be reversed. We're not talking about saline solution. It hasn't gone through he rigorous testing required for normal medical products or drugs. If I were to invent aspirin today (a rather benign drug in today's world) it wouldn't hit the shelves in your pharmacy for another 3 years at minimum. I'm not a fear monger that thinks the vax is gonna change your DNA or anything. But it's a bit more invasive than a tablet of aspirin.

Your willingness to be a beta test on the new magic trick (your words, not mine) is your choice. I chose to not be a participant in this beta phase.

As an engineer, like myself, does it not concern you that the miracle cure has been force fed to the population without going through the accepted approval processes?

The facts are that this vax is still in it's infancy. Nobody knows if there are any long term ramifications from it. It has been rushed to market, has been injected to anyone willing to stand in line regardless of risk or medical condition... These facts are indisputable.

Prove me wrong.

BuckyB93 wrote:

With the masking conversation ramping up I’m starting to think the VACCINE DOES NOT WORK!

HockeyDad wrote:

I’m sitting San Francisco International Airport getting ready to board a flight to Chicago. I’m wearing a mask and will be for hours according to Federal law because the VACCINE DOES NOT WORK IN AIRPORTS OR ON AIRPLANES.

HockeyDad wrote:

Hey, enjoy the flight!

Brewha wrote:

Ray Ray, your ignorance is monumental. If you ever paid attention, you would know that my decisions have no basis in politics. My decisions are based on what I end up believing is correct. When I find one of my decisions to be wrong I accept that and move forward. I have never been a Jeffersonian as I loathe politics. My admiration of Jefferson is based on his intelect.

Speyside wrote:

There’s ‘Rona everywhere on this plane plus it’s heading to Chicago. Just nothing enjoyable about any of that.

HockeyDad wrote:

This is a great post.
You seem well informed and it's well stated.

But (there's always a butt), I do question the unknown long term impact from the vaccine. Not for me. I gladly got the two-jabber as soon as they called my number.
But for those who have very little risk from the virus itself, I have a big concern.

Fact is, this IS a new approach and carries with it some implied risk. Sure, the mRNA teaches our body to thwart C-19. But what else might it do? Today. Next year. In 20 years?
Also, the vaccine isn't JUST mRNA. No sir. The delivery system itself is prone to side effects. Just ask J&J.
For me personally, the risk of the virus outweighed the risk of potential side effects.

The same can't be said for an 8 year old. (for instance)
Not yet.
And to say otherwise is to be dangerously misinformed.

Even the FDA thinks so.
Thus far it's only approved under an emergency authorization. I think it will eventually get full approval, but after the past 18 months it would be naïve to think this would be free of political influence.

So pick your poison. Seems too many want to mandate that choice for everyone else.

tailgater wrote: