And in almost 2 years 800k people have died from it... out of 370 million in the US.

That's a fraction of one percent. It's .00216 of one percent according to my handy dandy calculator. Of course, that's out of total population... not those actually infected by it.

How do you explain the outbreaks in highly "vaccinated" areas? Gibralter, for example?

If you get a small pox vaccine... or Measles, mumps, rubella vaccine... you don't contract those diseases. You're immune. Same with polio. Same with every other vaccination.

The flu shot has always been called a "flu shot" and never a vaccine.

But we can agree 100% that whether or not you decide to get the shot should be a personal decision and not forced by the gov't.

MACS wrote:

MACS, the vaccine is science backed. But the messaging is wrong and has had inaccuracies. Flu vaccine does not prevent catching and transmitting the flu. Same thing here. So it is weighing the benifit/risk. For me the benifit far outweighs the risk IMHO. I was at one point in 6 of the high risk catagories. Now I am in 3. Age, heart damage, historical compromised immune system on both sides of the family. I have 3 moderna jabs, as I should. Does this stop me from being infected by a different varient? No, hell no!! Does this drastically decrease the infection severity? Yes, hell yes!!

The bottom line IMHO, anyone at high risk needs to be vaccinated up the Ying Yang. They also need to be taking other precautions. Should they hide in fear? No, hell no.

Everyone else? The benifit/risk is entirely a different algorithm. Each person figures it out for themselves. I now feel I was wrong.this is an individual decision. Is this significantly worse than the Flu? IMHO, yes. Is it polio, small pox, Spanish flu bad? IMHO, no.

Just my 2 cents, no argument intended or wanted.

Speyside2 wrote:

But we can agree 100% that whether or not you decide to get the shot should be a personal decision and not forced by the gov't.

MACS wrote:

You may feel that getting vaxed should be a personal choice, but it’s not just the government that disagrees with you. Large corporations - the true owners of our nation - are installing mandated to keep their interest safer and mitigate risk to profits.

It’s one thing to make the choice not to wear a seatbelt (not that it is a choice within the law) as the danger is to yourself. Not getting vaxed is creating an ongoing risk to others. And yes, I know that this is incomprehensible to some people - but hey, that’s why we have mandates.

Brewha wrote:

Brewha has drunk the extra-strength Fauci flavored Kool-Aid and is completely oblivious to reality. Strong chit.

RayR wrote:

Hey... where's teedub to tell us this is the greatest thing since sliced bread and peanut butter and jelly?

It works! We just don't know the behind the scenes stuff. We couldn't possibly comprehend why a shot that is hailed as great new technology does not protect those who get it from contracting the virus, or spreading it to others.

In fact... read something saying now the majority of hospitalizations are among those who got the shot. Weird, I tell ya...

MACS wrote: