BuckyB93
4 years ago
I don't think solar nor wind are long term solutions for a steady and reliable supply of electricity. They may work as a supplement in certain geographical areas but both of these technologies need mother nature to cooperate, and she don't give two franks about us.

Using batteries to store any excess energy created from solar on the sunny and turbines on windy days for use on the dark and calm days isn't even close to being there yet, if ever.

I'm not saying we shouldn't continue to research and develop these technologies, I believe we should, just saying that I don't think they will be the answer.
Mike3316
4 years ago
Batteries are not the answer. Without getting into the question of WHERE the electricity will come from to charge them (wind and solar doesnt cut it) ... batteries are an environmental disaster waiting to happen. They're toxic. They cant be recycled. There is no really safe way to dispose of them. And lets discuss WHERE they come from. China manufactures the majority of the worlds batteries. Why? Because China controls the majority of worlds supply of minerals needed to make them. So yeah ... if you want to set up CHINA to be the OPEC of the 1970s then let's go all-in on battery technology.
BuckyB93
4 years ago
^
This is another huge issue which I think many people fail to realize. Ever see a lithium fire? Rather impressive.
Mike3316
4 years ago

^
This is another huge issue which I think many people fail to realize. Ever see a lithium fire? Rather impressive.

BuckyB93 wrote:


That's because the Dems and lamestream media refuse to talk about it. Not that the Republicans are any better.

And yes ... I HAVE seen a lith-ion battery explode. Even a AA sized battery can cause ALOT of damage when they blow!!!
BuckyB93
4 years ago

That's because the Dems and lamestream media refuse to talk about it. Not that the Republicans are any better.

And yes ... I HAVE seen a lith-ion battery explode. Even a AA sized battery can cause ALOT of damage when they blow!!!

Mike3316 wrote:



Agreed. I think we should still further develop wind, solar, hydrogen cells, and battery technologies as a possible supplement to fossil fuels and they each may find a niche and be a stepping stone until we (human race) figure out the next generation of energy source to be used for future generations.

I would also like to see us start rebooting and building modern nuclear plants for energy production, again as a stepping stone to whatever the next (yet to be discovered or invented) source of energy will be.

Maybe we send a team of miners to the next asteroid that passes by to drill for some Dilithium crystals or suptin'
Mike3316
4 years ago
^
Agreed. I believe hydrogen cells should definitely be further developed. Unfortunately I don't see alot of money to be made in water filling stations. 🤔
BuckyB93
4 years ago
Yeah, current technology isn't efficient in making hydrogen - cost more energy to get it than it gives back when you use it. You either extract it from fossil fuels or from water via electrolysis. Again, maybe there's technology that we haven't invented yet that can make it more economically feasible. We won't know unless we work on it.
rfenst
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4 years ago

... Perhaps someday there’ll be vehicles with solar panel roofs, trunks and other body parts that will allow for (fast) charging while driving? 🤔

Palama wrote:



They already exist and are being used for at least five years by UCF on campus here in Orlando. There is also photo-electric paint being tested on test cars.
deadeyedick
4 years ago

Or... alternatively, you could own a vintage corvette like DED and Creepy Joe.

MACS wrote:



I don't very much appreciate the association asshat.

I'm pretty sure one of us paid for ours and the other got it as a gift in return for access to the levers of our government.

aLLegdLy.
Gene363
4 years ago
Getting gas this morning,

I noticed the person ahead of me on Pump 3 bought $10.00 worth.

Where the hell were they going?

To Pump 4?

Whistlebritches
4 years ago
**** all this unreliable bullschit.......... Let's add new nuclear plants and while in the development stage lets get those dependable coal and oil fired plants back online.Right now dependability is much more important than our carbon footprint.We can take these down as the new nuclear plants come online.


Left wing nut job tree hugging coqsuckers have put us in this predicament...........so lets give each and everyone of these clueless bastids an anal cranial inversion reversal tool................with that special Wylie Coyote dynomite attached
BuckyB93
4 years ago
Actually stopped at a gas station earlier today in one of the surrounding towns. Pump charged me $3.40/gal.

I'm guessing an error on their part but I didn't go in to let them know that the pump might be undercharging me by a buck or so.
Sunoverbeach
4 years ago
Address please. It may not be worth the trip, but the principle of it is priceless
ZRX1200
4 years ago
I’d like to add the manipulation of our currency to the conversation.

Biden has played a very small part in that long game overall.
Burner02
4 years ago
$4.159 here locally in LA.

I was in Pensacola yesterday and saw 87 at $4.179. I was a little supprised because normally the FL prices will run on average 12-15 cents more a gallon.
frankj1
4 years ago

So, you are saying that the futures market (for any commodity really) is not a good predictor of the future of that market?

The market understands that in a few weeks, the ships from Russia with barrels of Russian oil that the current demand requires will suddenly not be arriving. As a result, they indicate that the demand is projected to be higher than the supply, and, as any third grader could predict, the price of oil goes up. Not because the barrel hitting the shores today cost any more to produce, but because the market is reacting to impending anticipated (and highly likely) shortfalls in production versus current demand.

It's not "fear mongering", it's a realstic near-term prediction.

Stogie1020 wrote:


I understand and also believe you understand this better than I do...but (didn't see that coming, eh?) if the oil/gas moguls react to real time events with immediate pricing changes on existing (already paid for) inventory, shouldn't there have been some noticeable price drop at the pump yesterday as the cost of barrels dropped...I believe below $100.

It appears that instant reaction only goes up, and price drops are more gradual.
8trackdisco
4 years ago
An irritant for me, is for the last twenty years, the summer-blend of gas bumps the price up 10 cents per gallon.
Don't recall the announcements in the fall of Going back to Autumn/Winter Gas and the 10 cent adjustment down.

West Texas Intermediate was $98.05 this morning. Brent Crude still $101.

Anybody know what makes up the American oil cocktail recipe?
DrMaddVibe
4 years ago

Anybody know what makes up the American oil cocktail recipe?

8trackdisco wrote:



Ball-bearings. It's all done with ball-bearings nowadays.
Stogie1020
4 years ago

I understand and also believe you understand this better than I do...but (didn't see that coming, eh?) if the oil/gas moguls react to real time events with immediate pricing changes on existing (already paid for) inventory, shouldn't there have been some noticeable price drop at the pump yesterday as the cost of barrels dropped...I believe below $100.

It appears that instant reaction only goes up, and price drops are more gradual.

frankj1 wrote:



In the middle of the night you hear a loud noise at your front door. You are quick to grab the 12GA, but slow to put it down when you hear no more noises...

When you eat bad Thai food, you are quick to get to a bathroom, but slow to walk away from it...

Plus, I am confident that most oil market analysts believe that the drop in crude prices are a temporary and artificial drop, and that prices will go back up.

frankj1
4 years ago

In the middle of the night you hear a loud noise at your front door. You are quick to grab the 12GA, but slow to put it down when you hear no more noises...

When you eat bad Thai food, you are quick to get to a bathroom, but slow to walk away from it...

Plus, I am confident that most oil market analysts believe that the drop in crude prices are a temporary and artificial drop, and that prices will go back up.

Stogie1020 wrote:


great. now I'm craving massaman curry and my wallet was stolen.
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