Mr. Jones
3 years ago
Dr. Jill says: "it's not my JOEY's fault...it's those bad bad men in Russia and Saudi Arabia ( where they buy and sell white women's like cattle in the sex trade...then dump them overboard in the Mediterranean from those million dollar luxury yacht's when they get bored with them)"
rfenst
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3 years ago
How Much Of The Gasoline Price Surge Is President Biden’s Fault?

Forbes (3-13-22)

One year ago this week I wrote an article that turned out to be my most popular Forbes article ever: Who Is To Blame For Rising Gasoline Prices? The article got more than a million views, and spawned a large amount of feedback.
A year later, the same dynamic I wrote about then is still responsible for most — but not all — of the gasoline price increase we have seen over the past 18 months.

The Covid Effect
To recap, just before the Covid-19 pandemic, U.S. oil production hit an all-time high of about 13 million barrels per day (BPD). As the pandemic unfolded, demand for oil collapsed, and production followed. By May 2020, oil production had dropped by more than 3 million BPD to 9.7 million BPD.

When the pandemic crushed oil demand in 2020, some oil companies went out of business. Some small stripper wells — which account for a respectable amount of U.S. oil production — were permanently capped because of the bleak outlook. Some workers left the oil industry. As people went back to work, demand began to bounce back, but production lagged due to the aforementioned issues.

Following the production collapse of 2020, the U.S. has been playing catch up as demand recovered. Rising oil prices — in response to insufficient supplies — are the predominant reason for the surge in gasoline prices.

In the last three months of the Trump Administration, oil prices rose by 32% as demand bounced back. From a monthly average of $39.40/bbl in October 2020 (source), the price of West Texas Intermediate (WTI) averaged $52.00/bbl in January 2021 — Trump’s last month in office.

In the first three months of the Biden Administration, the average monthly price of WTI rose by another 19% to $61.72/bbl. In the three months after that, prices rose another 17% to $72.49/bbl. Prices then bounced between $70/bbl and $80/bbl until January 2022. More on that below.

Many people attributed the entire price rise to President Biden, but in reality it began before Biden took office. Further, it was neither primarily President Trump nor President Biden’s fault — and these price surges were taking place all over the world.

To be clear, the stimulus money that both presidents approved had some impact. When people have more money, they spend it. Demand for goods rises, driving inflation. Stimulus money played a minor part in the gasoline price rise, but it was primarily a function of the oil price surge due to the imbalance brought on in the aftermath of the Covid-19 demand plunge.

The most recent data available from the Energy Information Administration (EIA) shows current U.S. oil production at ~11.6 million BPD, which is still 1.4 million BPD short of pre-pandemic production. Supply is going to lag demand for a bit longer, and that’s going to keep upward pressure on gasoline prices.

The Putin Effect
But now let’s discuss something that President Biden did impact. I often point out that a President has few handles for impacting gasoline prices in the short term. Those handles are primarily 1). Releases of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve; 2). Changing the gasoline tax; or 3). Involvement in a war with a major oil producer. All of these things can have a rapid impact on gasoline prices.

When it looked like Russia was massing troops on Ukraine’s border, oil prices broke out above the 2021 range. In January 2022, the average price of WTI moved up to $83.22/bbl. In February, when Russia actually invaded Ukraine, the average price jumped to $91.64/bbl. I attribute this price rise primarily to Vladimir Putin, combined with the world’s response to the invasion.

However, there is one action that President Biden does bear responsibility for. Biden’s decision to stop importing Russian oil was the trigger for oil prices surging above $120/bbl. They have retreated from that level for now, but the inefficiencies involved in rerouting Russian imports and backfilling that oil will keep a premium on prices.

I am not making any judgments here on whether it was the right or wrong decision. And I agree that Biden made the decision in response to Russia’s actions against Ukraine.

You may believe that banning Russian oil was the right move, but it does impact gasoline prices. It is arguably the first decision President Biden has made that had an immediate, short-term impact.

I say “arguably” because Biden has authorized some releases of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, and they may have had an impact. However, if they did it was fleeting, and only provided a small, temporary supply bump in a market that is significantly undersupplied.

Many people believe that cancellation of the Keystone XL pipeline by President Biden has impacted gasoline prices. But that’s a potential long-term impact. The Keystone XL decision doesn’t impact prices today, but its absence may very well result in higher prices in the future. Biden’s decision to ban Russian oil, on the other hand, has an immediate impact on prices.



Robert Rapier is a chemical engineer in the energy industry. Robert has 25 years of international engineering experience in the chemicals, oil and gas, and renewable energy industries, and holds several patents related to his work. He has worked in the areas of oil refining, oil production, synthetic fuels, biomass to energy, and alcohol production. He is author of Utility Forecaster at Investing Daily, and of the book Power Plays: Energy Options in the Age of Peak Oil. Robert has appeared on 60 Minutes, The History Channel, CNBC, Business News Network, CBC, and PBS, and his energy-themed articles have appeared in numerous media outlets, including the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, Christian Science Monitor, and The Economist.


Posted for the intermediate history of the problem, not politics.
Whistlebritches
3 years ago

back in the George W. Bush day, when gas prices were jumping from $1.50/gal to $4/gal, we on the left heaped blame on the POTUS, until our brethren on the right argued that the POTUS has no impact on gas prices. So, when gas prices went up when Trump was POTUS we didn't blame Trump...we griped about the greedy oil companies...

Here are some arguments about POTUS and gas prices that I first heard when GWB was POTUS and was blamed for rising gas prices:

https://principlebasedpolitics.org/gas-prices-were-talking-about-gas-prices/?gclid=CjwKCAjw46CVBhB1EiwAgy6M4tTARbUD3HYpI6l31h1qB1gOQMz6np4ZQNVirtgRfDbFT_2bVw3UDhoC93AQAvD_BwE 

delta1 wrote:




Al George W Bush is not our current president...........FOCUS!!!!
Whistlebritches
3 years ago

How Much Of The Gasoline Price Surge Is President Biden’s Fault?

Forbes (3-13-22)

One year ago this week I wrote an article that turned out to be my most popular Forbes article ever: Who Is To Blame For Rising Gasoline Prices? The article got more than a million views, and spawned a large amount of feedback.
A year later, the same dynamic I wrote about then is still responsible for most — but not all — of the gasoline price increase we have seen over the past 18 months.

The Covid Effect
To recap, just before the Covid-19 pandemic, U.S. oil production hit an all-time high of about 13 million barrels per day (BPD). As the pandemic unfolded, demand for oil collapsed, and production followed. By May 2020, oil production had dropped by more than 3 million BPD to 9.7 million BPD.

When the pandemic crushed oil demand in 2020, some oil companies went out of business. Some small stripper wells — which account for a respectable amount of U.S. oil production — were permanently capped because of the bleak outlook. Some workers left the oil industry. As people went back to work, demand began to bounce back, but production lagged due to the aforementioned issues.

Following the production collapse of 2020, the U.S. has been playing catch up as demand recovered. Rising oil prices — in response to insufficient supplies — are the predominant reason for the surge in gasoline prices.

In the last three months of the Trump Administration, oil prices rose by 32% as demand bounced back. From a monthly average of $39.40/bbl in October 2020 (source), the price of West Texas Intermediate (WTI) averaged $52.00/bbl in January 2021 — Trump’s last month in office.

In the first three months of the Biden Administration, the average monthly price of WTI rose by another 19% to $61.72/bbl. In the three months after that, prices rose another 17% to $72.49/bbl. Prices then bounced between $70/bbl and $80/bbl until January 2022. More on that below.

Many people attributed the entire price rise to President Biden, but in reality it began before Biden took office. Further, it was neither primarily President Trump nor President Biden’s fault — and these price surges were taking place all over the world.

To be clear, the stimulus money that both presidents approved had some impact. When people have more money, they spend it. Demand for goods rises, driving inflation. Stimulus money played a minor part in the gasoline price rise, but it was primarily a function of the oil price surge due to the imbalance brought on in the aftermath of the Covid-19 demand plunge.

The most recent data available from the Energy Information Administration (EIA) shows current U.S. oil production at ~11.6 million BPD, which is still 1.4 million BPD short of pre-pandemic production. Supply is going to lag demand for a bit longer, and that’s going to keep upward pressure on gasoline prices.

The Putin Effect
But now let’s discuss something that President Biden did impact. I often point out that a President has few handles for impacting gasoline prices in the short term. Those handles are primarily 1). Releases of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve; 2). Changing the gasoline tax; or 3). Involvement in a war with a major oil producer. All of these things can have a rapid impact on gasoline prices.

When it looked like Russia was massing troops on Ukraine’s border, oil prices broke out above the 2021 range. In January 2022, the average price of WTI moved up to $83.22/bbl. In February, when Russia actually invaded Ukraine, the average price jumped to $91.64/bbl. I attribute this price rise primarily to Vladimir Putin, combined with the world’s response to the invasion.

However, there is one action that President Biden does bear responsibility for. Biden’s decision to stop importing Russian oil was the trigger for oil prices surging above $120/bbl. They have retreated from that level for now, but the inefficiencies involved in rerouting Russian imports and backfilling that oil will keep a premium on prices.

I am not making any judgments here on whether it was the right or wrong decision. And I agree that Biden made the decision in response to Russia’s actions against Ukraine.

You may believe that banning Russian oil was the right move, but it does impact gasoline prices. It is arguably the first decision President Biden has made that had an immediate, short-term impact.

I say “arguably” because Biden has authorized some releases of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, and they may have had an impact. However, if they did it was fleeting, and only provided a small, temporary supply bump in a market that is significantly undersupplied.

Many people believe that cancellation of the Keystone XL pipeline by President Biden has impacted gasoline prices. But that’s a potential long-term impact. The Keystone XL decision doesn’t impact prices today, but its absence may very well result in higher prices in the future. Biden’s decision to ban Russian oil, on the other hand, has an immediate impact on prices.



Robert Rapier is a chemical engineer in the energy industry. Robert has 25 years of international engineering experience in the chemicals, oil and gas, and renewable energy industries, and holds several patents related to his work. He has worked in the areas of oil refining, oil production, synthetic fuels, biomass to energy, and alcohol production. He is author of Utility Forecaster at Investing Daily, and of the book Power Plays: Energy Options in the Age of Peak Oil. Robert has appeared on 60 Minutes, The History Channel, CNBC, Business News Network, CBC, and PBS, and his energy-themed articles have appeared in numerous media outlets, including the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, Christian Science Monitor, and The Economist.


Posted for the intermediate history of the problem, not politics.

rfenst wrote:



Worthless read Robert........this is simple,Biden cut all drilling and production on federal lands and offshore.He killed our energy independence which threw us into the tailspin we are currently in.You can c-n-p all the spin articles you want the facts are simple and straightforward, Biden is a walking clusterfuck
delta1
3 years ago
Gotcha....rising gas prices when GOP is POTUS (GWB and Trump) OK, not his fault...when Dem is POTUS rising gas prices bad and his fault...

basic law of supply and demand is the driver, and the oil companies have much more input in that law...Trump's crowing about dropping gas prices during his last year in office ignores the facts that people were staying home and most small businesses were closed due to the pandemic and high unemployment, not driving much...you remember all the ghost towns and open highways then?


more facts:
https://www.convenience.org/Media/conveniencecorner/Does-the-President-Control-Gas-Prices 


https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2022/03/13/how-much-of-the-gasoline-price-surge-is-president-bidens-fault/?sh=7dc4dc577c8b 
Whistlebritches
3 years ago

Gotcha....rising gas prices when GOP is POTUS (GWB and Trump) OK, not his fault...when Dem is POTUS rising gas prices bad and his fault...

basic law of supply and demand is the driver, and the oil companies have much more input in that law...Trump's crowing about dropping gas prices during his last year in office ignores the facts that people were staying home and most small businesses were closed due to the pandemic and high unemployment, not driving much...you remember all the ghost towns and open highways then?


more facts:
https://www.convenience.org/Media/conveniencecorner/Does-the-President-Control-Gas-Prices 


https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2022/03/13/how-much-of-the-gasoline-price-surge-is-president-bidens-fault/?sh=7dc4dc577c8b 

delta1 wrote:




Al for some reason I do not remember $6 gas...........refresh my memory

At what date under whose presidency did we reach energy independence???Let me help you here you may choke on the answer.......2019,Trump,What was the average price of gas in 2019....again please don't choke it'll be ok........$2.64................energy independence is what controls "OUR" fuel prices.You can post all the liberal BS you want,Facts are facts my friend.Why would demand be so much greater in 2022 than 2019 with all these electric vehicles hitting the road????? It isn't ,supply is down due to Bidens idiotic response to anything Trump......anything.Look at our border,look at international affairs,look at Ukraine............Biden could **** up a train wreck with a rubber hammer.Its time the people of this country became less obsessed with party and laser'd in on results.The day that happens not one more liberal will be able to schit on this country at will.

I know that's alot to research in which zero truthful answers can be found.Smoke a good one and stop the head spinning
RFAZ
3 years ago

Boy... you'd think after we saved Kuwait's arse they would send a little relief our way. 😰

Filled up a week ago at Sam's and it was $6 a gallon for the cheap stuff.

MACS wrote:


RFAZ
3 years ago

Gas Prices Per Gallon USD by Country as of June 1st -

Australia $5.45
Belgium $8.10
Benin $3.73
Brazil $5.78
Canada $6.49
China $5.50
Denmark $10.02
France $8.06
Finland $9.64
Germany $8.80
Greece $9.29
Hong Kong $11.21
Iceland $9.47
India $5.09
Ireland $7.91
Israel $8.24
Italy $7.78
Japan $4.85
Jordan $6.30
Kuwait $1.30
Madagascar $3.84
Malawi $6.32
Mexico $4.55
Mozambique $4.59
Netherlands $9.20
Norway $10.70
Pakistan $3.43
Poland $6.52
Qatar $2.18
Russia $3.03
Saudi Arabia $2.35
Sierra Leone $4.34
Singapore $8.76
Sweden $9.05
Turkey $5.80
Ukraine $6.51
United Kingdom $8.17
United States $4.79
Zimbabwe $5.46

deadeyedick wrote:




Most of these counties are getting oil from Russia. The USA can and should be relying on our own oil rather than buying from Russia, Saudis or any other country. Sleepy Joe distroyed this day one when he took office.
Whistlebritches
3 years ago

Most of these counties are getting oil from Russia. The USA can and should be relying on our own oil rather than buying from Russia, Saudis or any other country. Sleepy Joe distroyed this day one when he took office.

RFAZ wrote:




Kuwait,Qater and Saudi damn sure aren't relying on Russia and look at those prices.Lets face it Joe has no clue or just doesn't give a flying ****...........either way Americans suffer and he and his party continue to let it happen.
JGKAMIN
3 years ago
Gas prices quickly shot up under Bush but then dropped to around $1.75/gallon before leaving office and watched them steadily climb under Obama.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=emm_epm0_pte_nus_dpg&f=m 
BuckyB93
3 years ago
Biden blames oil companies and Putin for the rise in oil prices. Demands oil companies to increase refinery capacity.

For you extreme lefties and Biden apologists I'll post a link to one of your favorite brain washing sources
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/15/politics/joe-biden-oil-companies/index.html

Deflection, deflection, deflection...

On day one of his presidency, he paved a path to where we are now but accepts no responsibility or accountability.

Why would a company invest in creating new domestic refineries or work with the current administration that has vowed to exterminate the use of fossil fuels and demonize them them at every opportunity?
A real leader would convene a meeting with the suppliers and work out a way to move forward but Biden sends a "I blame you" letter..

FU Brandon!
MACS
3 years ago
Cost me $128 to fill up today... and I only put 21.33 gallons in the tank.
rfenst
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3 years ago

Worthless read Robert........this is simple,Biden cut all drilling and production on federal lands and offshore.He killed our energy independence which threw us into the tailspin we are currently in.You can c-n-p all the spin articles you want the facts are simple and straightforward, Biden is a walking clusterfuck

Whistlebritches wrote:


You completely missed the point of why I posted the article as explained in blue. BDS?

I didn't post this to support Bidden. I posted it for the history of oil prices, market changes, and the reasons over the last 2-2.5 years, a time-frame that began well prior to Covid or Biden.

And, I am not saying it's Trump's fault either, even though oil prices increased dramatically over the last several months of his presidency. Again, I don't blame him for that.

Read most of the first half of the article and the facts it lays out. It's numbers and facts, not politics that I posted the article for people to read.
Whistlebritches
3 years ago

You completely missed the point of why I posted the article as explained in blue. BDS?

I didn't post this to support Bidden. I posted it for the history of oil prices, market changes, and the reasons over the last 2-2.5 years, a time-frame that began well prior to Covid or Biden.

And, I am not saying it's Trump's fault either, even though oil prices increased dramatically over the last several months of his presidency. Again, I don't blame him for that.

Read most of the first half of the article and the facts it lays out. It's numbers and facts, not politics that I posted the article for people to read.

rfenst wrote:




I did not miss the point..........I do not believe their premise.When a puzzle is assembled all the pieces fit.


Ron
MACS
3 years ago

Most of these counties are getting oil from Russia. The USA can and should be relying on our own oil rather than buying from Russia, Saudis or any other country. Sleepy Joe distroyed this day one when he took office.

RFAZ wrote:



YUP.
Palama
3 years ago

Cost me $128 to fill up today... and I only put 21.33 gallons in the tank.

MACS wrote:



By any chance are you going to Grants Pass? 🤔
rfenst
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3 years ago

I did not miss the point..........I do not believe their premise.When a puzzle is assembled all the pieces fit.
Ron

Whistlebritches wrote:


So, you are saying you are in the "puzzle room"? LOL.
tonygraz
3 years ago
While in Maine last week only a few gas increases from 4.95 to 5.21. When I got back I noticed the price at my usual station down about 0.15. Hope the trend continues, but gas conservation doesn't seem to be commonplace.
MACS
3 years ago
I got yer conservation... driving a loaded down 5.7L Hemi V8 from CA to Florida in 3 weeks. Hope gas comes down some, but I ain't holding my breath.

Once I leave CA it'll drop about a buck a gallon... and it'll be better gas, too.
ZRX1200
3 years ago
How many blends is California up to, 5 or 7?
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