RayR
3 years ago
Brewha should move to China. He sounds like a Chicom fanboy.
Stogie1020
3 years ago

China is ahead of us in EV and battery production - look it up.

But if it makes you feel better, from our perspective they are under us - at least on the globe...

Brewha wrote:


I am sure you wrote a letter to the white house demanding Biden rescind his 20 year ban on mining rare earth minerals in the Duluth Complex, right? I mean, if we are behind China, let's catch up, no?
Abrignac
3 years ago

China leads the world in both battery and EV production. China already has an estimated 54 million “green jobs”, with over 4 million jobs in renewable energy. China has also announced that it will no longer build coal-fired power plants abroad and will step up support for other countries in developing green and low-carbon energy. We are behind them.

India is Thursday's child.

Brewha wrote:



Seems China can’t count Covid deaths accurately. How accurate is the 54M number?
RayR
3 years ago

your chose the adjectives...

government subsidy is government subsidy...

and the oil industry has been given a whole bunch for a long time, despite remarkable profits for the duration...


and like other environmentally destructive industries before it, you and I and our fellow taxpayers will be on the hook for all the costs of clean-up once the business stops being profitable and the companies file for bankruptcy...we may both be young enough to see that day


but I digress....apologies to Ram, for letting myself be goaded in, close to the edge of "politics" here on neutral ground...I've been trying to avoid getting drawn in by political diatribes

delta1 wrote:



So in other words you are a fan of economic fascism like those NRDC people of yours? You have swallowed the propaganda that politically correct government subsidies and tax breaks are investments in the future. (that sounds like Biden, and of course, he's an idjut)

I got news for you, the most environmentally and economically destructive entity is/are progressive governments and you and your fellow taxpayers are already on the hook. Of course, progressive governments don't have to worry about such mundane things as profits because their business model or lack of one is based only on grand larceny and fraud writ large. Will we live to see the day when they finally default on their debts and declare insolvency? Or will all the ensuing devastation be their gift to the children?
Brewha
3 years ago

I am sure you wrote a letter to the white house demanding Biden rescind his 20 year ban on mining rare earth minerals in the Duluth Complex, right? I mean, if we are behind China, let's catch up, no?

Stogie1020 wrote:



This is not the political forum - noob...
Brewha
3 years ago

Seems China can’t count Covid deaths accurately. How accurate is the 54M number?

Abrignac wrote:



As we have demonstrated here, there is no source that can provide numbers that can be trusted.

YMMV
Brewha
3 years ago
More government mandated coming.

And if you ever tried to use an Electrify America (VW) you will love it.

https://electrek.co/2023/02/15/sick-of-ev-chargers-not-working-heres-how-thats-going-to-change/ 
Brewha
3 years ago
Looks like Ford has a new patent for those who like trucks and off roading; the live axle:

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1138761_ford-patents-solid-axle-hub-motor-combo-with-ev-off-roading-in-mind 
HockeyDad
3 years ago

More government mandated coming.

And if you ever tried to use an Electrify America (VW) you will love it.

https://electrek.co/2023/02/15/sick-of-ev-chargers-not-working-heres-how-thats-going-to-change/ 

Brewha wrote:



Sick of EV chargers not working? Wait…that’s a thing?


“The Biden administration today announced that the US government is going to set standards for federally funded EV chargers – a US first. In other words, if an EV charger is installed using federal dollars, then it has to actually work, and to a high standard.”


Well this should fix the problem.
Brewha
3 years ago

Sick of EV chargers not working? Wait…that’s a thing?


“The Biden administration today announced that the US government is going to set standards for federally funded EV chargers – a US first. In other words, if an EV charger is installed using federal dollars, then it has to actually work, and to a high standard.”


Well this should fix the problem.

HockeyDad wrote:




The Electrify America charges built by Volkswagen are nutritiously bad.
Tesla's work like a hose.

Welcome to the twenty first century HD.
Brewha
3 years ago
EU formally bans new ICE vehicles, aims to slash emissions from trucks and buses

The European Union has put its stamp of approval on a reworked law yesterday banning all new sales of ICE vehicles from 2035. Meanwhile, the European Commission has also proposed new targets to cut CO2 emissions from city buses and trucks from 2030 and onward. Here’s the latest.

The landmark bill regarding ICE vehicles, which was approved last year but still needs to go through one more round of approvals in March, officially bans the sale of all new petrol and diesel vehicles in the entire 27-country bloc. This latest revision signed yesterday, according to Reuters, sees a 55% cut in CO2 emissions for new cars sold from 2030 versus 2021 compared to the previous target of 37.5%.

Of course, there are a couple of caveats: For one, the law only addresses new cars, not the second-hand market, meaning that a brand-new ICE vehicle bought in 2034 will still be legal to drive in 2035 and onward. Given the life cycle of most cars is about 10 to 15 years or so, that’s not good news when it comes to meeting climate goals. The final deal also includes a workaround for smaller carmakers producing less than 10,000 vehicles a year to meet weaker targets until 2036.

While there has been pushback from the auto industry over the past year, most European car manufacturers are already on board with plans to heavily invest in electrification, including Volkswagen’s commitment to only produce electric cars in Europe from 2033. Others, such as Bentley, Mercedes-Benz, Ford, and Jaguar, have already begun shifting their global production strategies toward an all-electric future.

The European Commission has also turned its eye toward cutting greenhouse emissions from the transport section, with an aim to phase in stronger CO2 emissions standards for all new heavy-duty vehicles, including city buses and long-haul trucks, and gradually shift to zero emissions in the coming years. The plan, announced yesterday, suggests a 45% emissions reduction from 2030, then 65% emission reduction from 2035, to 90% from 2040. Yet, the plan is a tad more aggressive for city buses, requiring zero-emissions standards by 2030.

As is, heavy-duty vehicles account for more than 6% of total EU greenhouse gases and more than 25% of all greenhouse gas emissions from road transport.

It’s early days for the proposal, with legislators already debating the potential loss of employment for hundreds of thousands of people in the ICE industry and the rising electricity costs, with centrist and conservative leaders asking for a rethink of the truck ban.
Stogie1020
3 years ago

This is not the political forum - noob...

Brewha wrote:


And yet you freely post about government mandates and government policies... Hypocrite.
RayR
3 years ago
Brew is happy that the LEFTY EU central planners have the scheme to decide for the proles what they can buy and drive.
The government knows best. 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
DrMaddVibe
3 years ago
https://www.spiked-online.com/podcast-episode/the-uselessness-of-electric-cars/ 

14:58 mark...Talks about how EV's are not the great dragon slayer people want to believe.

Even a cursory insightful talk about Karl Marx's "Superstructure" shows that, well...uh...yeah.
DrMaddVibe
3 years ago

Brew is happy that the LEFTY EU central planners have the scheme to decide for the proles what they can buy and drive.
The government knows best. 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

RayR wrote:





🇨🇮
RayR
3 years ago
Remember the "Behavioral Insights Team" (The nudge squad) under Obama? Something they copied from the UK.
A small group of people in the government attempts to shape the behavior of the proles, convincing them that government knows better about what choices they should make, and how to think and act politically correctly according to self-appointed LEFTY experts in government and academia.
It's a fine line though, a nudge can soon become a forceful shove or ’a boot stamping on a human face – for ever’ if the recalcitrant proles don't exactly act according to their master's wishes.


Brewha
3 years ago

And yet you freely post about government mandates and government policies... Hypocrite.

Stogie1020 wrote:



Actually I am trying to keep this tread to the topic of EV's and the future - not politics. True enough that mandates are part of that, but we should be evaluating these things on their merits.

Some here see the subject as purely political. And so their opinions are driven by what they see as the "left" or "Right" political goals. So a pod cast or opinion talk shows are the source of "truth" to them. Rather than just researching the facts and making a proper value judgement for themselves.

Elon Musk (Tesla) - a noted conservative - is doing more than any other American to push the EV agenda. But I don't care about his politics. I just appreciate the ground breaking technology of his cars and manufacturing processes.





Anyway the politics are moot, but the coming wave of new tech is not. Name your favorite car company, and odds are they have an EV, or a few in the works.
DrMaddVibe
3 years ago

Actually I am trying to keep this tread to the topic of EV's and the future - not politics. True enough that mandates are part of that, but we should be evaluating these things on their merits.

Some here see the subject as purely political. And so their opinions are driven by what they see as the "left" or "Right" political goals. So a pod cast or opinion talk shows are the source of "truth" to them. Rather than just researching the facts and making a proper value judgement for themselves.

Elon Musk (Tesla) - a noted conservative - is doing more than any other American to push the EV agenda. But I don't care about his politics. I just appreciate the ground breaking technology of his cars and manufacturing processes.





Anyway the politics are moot, but the coming wave of new tech is not. Name your favorite car company, and odds are they have an EV, or a few in the works.

Brewha wrote:




Politics is driving this whether you like this or not so it sounds like you're going to have to deal with that. Politicians are telling consumers what products they can and have to purchase.


Maybe they can add a diarrhea splatter sound for your car as an upgrade.
DrMaddVibe
3 years ago
Talking about upgrades...er recalls I mean...safety schmafety


Tesla 'Recalls' Over 360,000 Full-Self-Driving Vehicles, Plans OTA Update Fix



Tesla is recalling nearly 363,000 vehicles with its “Full Self-Driving” system to fix problems with the way it behaves around intersections and following posted speed limits, according to a NHTSA filing Thursday.

The 'recall' includes certain 2016-2023 Model S, Model X, 2017-2023 Model 3, and 2020-2023 Model Y vehicles

The FSD Beta system may allow the vehicle to act unsafe around intersections, such as traveling straight through an intersection while in a turn-only lane, entering a stop sign-controlled intersection without coming to a complete stop, or proceeding into an intersection during a steady yellow traffic signal without due caution.

In addition, the system may respond insufficiently to changes in posted speed limits or not adequately account for the driver's adjustment of the vehicle's speed to exceed posted speed limits.

As CNBC notes, only Tesla owners who have the company’s premium FSD driver assistance system installed in their cars can join the FSD Beta program. That option now costs $15,000 up front or $199 per month in the U.S. today. Owners must obtain a high driver-safety score, as determined by Tesla software that monitors their driving habits, and maintain it to get FSD Beta access.

Tesla is expected to fix the issue through an over-the-air software update, free of charge, by April 15, the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said.

Definitely. The word “recall” for an over-the-air software update is anachronistic and just flat wrong!
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 16, 2023


TSLA slid into the red after the headlines hit, but for now the selling is modest in context...

Finally, we note that the NHTSA documents say Tesla is doing the recall but does not agree with an agency analysis of the problem.

https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/tesla-recalls-over-360000-full-self-driving-vehicles-plans-ota-update-fix 



[frypan] [frypan] [frypan]


It's official...Tesla is now the new Prius of the road. Toot Tooty...that's not a good thing either.
Brewha
3 years ago

Politics is driving this whether you like this or not so it sounds like you're going to have to deal with that. Politicians are telling consumers what products they can and have to purchase.


Maybe they can add a diarrhea splatter sound for your car as an upgrade.

DrMaddVibe wrote:




Yes - Governments far and wide do regulate consumer products.
Suck it up butter cup.
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