But, Is the Tap Water safe to drink?

drglnc wrote:

You really don’t understand what Reedy Creek Improvement District is!

Means of production…jeeez.

I heard DeSantis just ordered Magic Kingdom ticket prices be cut by 50%, he ordered the complete razing of EPCOT, and he’s making Snow White turn tricks on Orange Blossom Trail!

HockeyDad wrote:

Don't think so, seems to be polluted with Fairy Dust!!! went to Disney twice in my life, took my family there in the mid 80's and it was full of fairy's... went again in 2000 as I was passing through the area and once again it was full of Fairies!! 🤦 🤦 😣 😣 😣

RiverRatRuss wrote:

I see what you did there... 🤦

drglnc wrote:

8-[ 🤔 :-" Hey $20 Bucks is $20 Bucks... do you know the cost for day passes for Family at Disney?? 😰 😰 🇨🇮

RiverRatRuss wrote:

Yeah, and they want to borrow money for improvements, but lenders won't allow it to pledge its land as security for the loan it wants because Disney doesn't have full ownership/control of its own land any more. This is the economic engine of all of Central Florida and the largest employer in the state. We shouldn't F with a good thing.

rfenst wrote:

8-[ 🤔 :-" Hey $20 Bucks is $20 Bucks... do you know the cost for day passes for Family at Disney?? 😰 😰 🇨🇮

RiverRatRuss wrote:

$109 to $189 per person depending on the day.

HockeyDad wrote:

So Disney got turned down on a loan because of RCID? That didn’t happen. Disney has $48 billion in debt. Disney doesn’t need to put up Space Mountain as collateral.

Disney has just as much full ownership/control of its land as you do of your land.

HockeyDad wrote:

8-[ 🤔 :-" Hey $20 Bucks is $20 Bucks... do you know the cost for day passes for Family at Disney?? 😰 😰 🇨🇮

RiverRatRuss wrote:

False.

I don't need a politically, state-appointed, board of directors to approve the pledge or sale of my home or other properties. Do you?

Tom, what explanation do you have for changing a constitutional land agreement that has worked well for so many years, besides social politics?

rfenst wrote:

We always go for multi Day park hopper passes...
5-Day With the Park Hopper Option: $369 plus tax per person so $74 per day (Military retire pricing)


Just purchased for August for a Group of 7...

drglnc wrote:

False.

I don't need a politically, state-appointed, board of directors to approve the pledge or sale of my home or other properties. Do you?

Tom, what explanation do you have for changing a constitutional land agreement that has worked well for so many years, besides social politics?

rfenst wrote:

In 2000 I was passing through Ocoee Fl where family lives and my Dad was the last time we hung out together, so he road Bitch on the back of my Harley for a couple days, one of those days he and I went to Disney to see the Epcot Globe.. My Dad was a Union Sheetmetals man worked on the Globe when it was built, we toured mainly Epcot Center as he explained his work he'd done there...🇨🇮 🇨🇮

Dad Passed in April of 2001

RiverRatRuss wrote:

Glad you got to have that Experience and Memory with him. Mine passed almost 15 years ago now and you can never have enough memories. My Wife's Parents are getting up in age so we are going in August with them so my wifes whole fam (us with out daughter and her 2 brothers) can get some of those good times in before it is 2 late.

drglnc wrote:

RCID has no authority to approve the pledge or sale of property nor does the new district that replaced it. You’ve invented a false outrage. Think of RCID as the exact same thing as Orange County except the commissioners were appointed by Disney instead of elected. Can Orange County stop the sale of your property? Can Orange County approve or deny things you want to do with your property? Can Orange County tax you? Does Orange County provide fire and police? Does Orange County provide utilities? Does Orange County build and maintain roads?

RCID got replaced absolutely over social politics. Disney had a very special government arrangement that no other business in the state had and they decided to publicly enter politics over their desire for transsexual education for K-3rd grade. Disney started the war with the state.

Now you have a new special district. It has all the same powers and functions as RCID except Disney does not get to appoint its board. It did lose the right to build an airport and a nuclear power plant.

HockeyDad wrote:

Thank you for confirming it was all political and not business- other than the state breaking its long-standing, relied upon, stable constitutional agreement (contract), with the state.

As to Disney's involvement in politics, that is nothing new. They have taken political/social stands for decades. They also donate a chit-ton of money to whichever politicians are in power.

I have zero problems with Disney paying taxes on its profits tom both Orange and Osceola counties for the services they provide- in addition to the hotel tax they collect due to Disney's presence here. But, neither can move quickly enough to approve new Disney roads and infrastructure.

I don't know what types of real estate and lending you have been involved with, but this is a true property right/eminent domain taking in my eyes, and a truly politically motivated issue and nothing more. When things are working fine, don't F with them.



(You and I have herfed together many times, had long, direct discussions about national and international politics, and other hot issues. You have even been to my home. We have always respected our opposing views- and I always had a good time, despite our disagreements. I just wish others here were capable of this like you are. But, sometimes I expect too much from others...)

rfenst wrote:

enjoy those good times with the people with whom you disagree and ignore the toxic individuals who make up the minority of contributors here.

Imagine how short their poster life spans would be on sites so vastly opposed to their views on political/social issues as compared to people like you and me have carved out here.

frankj1 wrote:

enjoy those good times with the people with whom you disagree and ignore the toxic individuals who make up the minority of contributors here.

Imagine how short their poster life spans would be on sites so vastly opposed to their views on political/social issues as compared to people like you and me have carved out here.

frankj1 wrote:

(You and I have herfed together many times, had long, direct discussions about national and international politics, and other hot issues. You have even been to my home. We have always respected our opposing views- and I always had a good time, despite our disagreements. I just wish others here were capable of this like you are. But, sometimes I expect too much from others...)

rfenst wrote: