HockeyDad
3 years ago
There’s a lot of government momentum behind electric vehicles. Within 25 years you will all be driving an EV and if you can’t afford it you’ll be riding a bus or other mass transit.

You need your own own solar farm and battery storage as well so go ahead and budget for that. Otherwise the government will be rationing your electricity using technology that we already have today!
DrafterX
3 years ago


Otherwise the government will be rationing your electricity using technology that we already have today!

HockeyDad wrote:



Who in the hell thought that up..?? 😕
HockeyDad
3 years ago

Who in the hell thought that up..?? 😕

DrafterX wrote:



People like me! We already do it today. We just don’t really publicize it.
DrafterX
HockeyDad
3 years ago
The Matrix ain’t gonna build itself!
Brewha
3 years ago
Does that mean we all get cool sun glasses?
DrafterX
3 years ago
Only us cool Dudes... 😎
HockeyDad
3 years ago

Does that mean we all get cool sun glasses?

Brewha wrote:



No. You’re gonna get a bunch of wires and hoses shoved in you and you will be happy.
DrafterX
3 years ago
I could sure use a morphine drip about now... 😟
Brewha
3 years ago

saw this from Bloomber News in my Boston Globe this morning...

"Exxon Mobil Corp. and Toyota Motor Corp. formed a partnership to test out low-carbon fuels in gasoline engines, potentially offering a way for drivers to reduce emissions without upgrading to an electric vehicle.

The fuel blends are made from cleaner feedstocks and could one day cut greenhouse gas emissions from internal combustion engines by as much as 75% compared with regular gasoline, said Andrew Madden, Exxon’s vice president for strategy and planning, citing initial trial results. The fuels proved compatible with Toyota vehicles, raising the prospect of a drop-in solution that could compete with battery-powered cars in future."

looks like in a couple years I'll buy an electric vehicle and after a few years there might even be zero carbon "gas".

frankj1 wrote:



A few things about this:

Offering long-shot solutions to problems is part of what both Exxon and Toyota have done in the past. Exxon once tried to convince the world that plant algae could replace diesel, and Toyota continues to develop hydrogen-fueled vehicles without much to show for it.

That said, IF they could reach efficiency and emissions parity with electric cars (physics says no) there is still the issue of ICE cars being much more complex to make, having more points of failure, and rather soon being much more expensive to make.

In time people are going to realize that all things being equal, you still don't want a car with the hundreds of moving parts that ICE cars need to work.
DrMaddVibe
3 years ago

A few things about this:

Offering long-shot solutions to problems is part of what both Exxon and Toyota have done in the past. Exxon once tried to convince the world that plant algae could replace diesel, and Toyota continues to develop hydrogen-fueled vehicles without much to show for it.

That said, IF they could reach efficiency and emissions parity with electric cars (physics says no) there is still the issue of ICE cars being much more complex to make, having more points of failure, and rather soon being much more expensive to make.

In time people are going to realize that all things being equal, you still don't want a car with the hundreds of moving parts that ICE cars need to work.

Brewha wrote:




:-k

Some caveman invented the wheel and lots of commies in China ride bikes still.

Just because you're all hyped on Trendy and feel some compulsion to explain your poor purchases doesn't mean everyone else is going to follow the lemming.

Not gonna kill petroleum despite huffing the glue.

Exxon’s quarterly profit has exceeded $10 billion for four consecutive quarters, a streak not seen since the era of $145-a-barrel crude in 2008.

Some other details from the first quarter:

Upstream adjusted net income $6.62 billion, estimate $6.51 billion
Energy products adjusted net income $4.21 billion, estimate $3.89 billion
Chemical products adjusted net income $371 million, estimate $398.3 million
Specialty products adjusted net income $774 million, estimate $522.5 million

Chemical prime product sales 4,649 kt, estimate 5,643
Downstream petroleum product sales 5,277 kbd
Production 3,831 KOEBD, +4.2% y/y, estimate 3,788
Crude oil, NGL, bitumen and synthetic oil production 2,495 KBD, +10% y/y, estimate 2,418
Refinery throughput 3,998 KBD, +0.4% y/y, estimate 3,970

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/exxon-smashes-expectations-reports-strongest-ever-q1-results 
DrafterX
3 years ago
Texas electric vehicle drivers could soon be required to pay an annual $200 fee to register their cars. 
"As more of these vehicles drive on Texas roads, there are concerns about how they contribute to the funding of the roads which they use," Nichols wrote in a statement of intent when filing the bill. "Currently, Texas uses the gasoline/diesel fuel tax to fund transportation projects; however, with the growing use of EVs, the revenue from the fuel tax is decreasing, which diminishes our ability to fund road improvements for all drivers." 

:-k
Brewha
3 years ago

:-k

Some caveman invented the wheel and lots of commies in China ride bikes still.

Just because you're all hyped on Trendy and feel some compulsion to explain your poor purchases doesn't mean everyone else is going to follow the lemming.

Not gonna kill petroleum despite huffing the glue.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Petroleum is used to make - almost everything. Why would you think electric cars would "kill petroleum"?

I can tell by your post that you suffer from Madagascar Syndrome...
Brewha
3 years ago

Texas electric vehicle drivers could soon be required to pay an annual $200 fee to register their cars. 
"As more of these vehicles drive on Texas roads, there are concerns about how they contribute to the funding of the roads which they use," Nichols wrote in a statement of intent when filing the bill. "Currently, Texas uses the gasoline/diesel fuel tax to fund transportation projects; however, with the growing use of EVs, the revenue from the fuel tax is decreasing, which diminishes our ability to fund road improvements for all drivers." 

:-k

DrafterX wrote:



So, this would be a tax that everyone is already paying - at the pump.

Hmmmm- look like I've been skating for free for awhile now...
DrafterX
3 years ago
Pappa said "Son don't let da man get ya...' 😟
DrMaddVibe
3 years ago

Petroleum is used to make - almost everything. Why would you think electric cars would "kill petroleum"?

I can tell by your post that you suffer from Madagascar Syndrome...

Brewha wrote:



You can't even tell the time.

You're a hot mess with ZERO common sense.

Have fun trying to impress children with your fart cart. Children, there's your target audience. Stick with that.
HockeyDad
3 years ago

So, this would be a tax that everyone is already paying - at the pump.

Hmmmm- look like I've been skating for free for awhile now...

Brewha wrote:



Leach on society.

The west coast is experimenting with a mileage tax with a transponder on your car.
Brewha
3 years ago

Leach on society.

The west coast is experimenting with a mileage tax with a transponder on your car.

HockeyDad wrote:



The “best and smartest Americans” pay no tax - or so I read on the politic threads.

I guess I should be a luminary for you…
Brewha
3 years ago

You can't even tell the time.

You're a hot mess with ZERO common sense.

Have fun trying to impress children with your fart cart. Children, there's your target audience. Stick with that.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



I think I speak for everyone here when I say “we love you when you’re Madd”.

🇨🇮
DrMaddVibe
3 years ago

I think I speak for everyone here when I say “we love you when you’re Madd”.

🇨🇮

Brewha wrote:



That's EVERY DAMNED DAY sporto! Thanks, but Dylan "Miss Bud Light" Mulvaney is gonna lock you out for cheating on "her"!
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