I’ve really been impressed with the number of true manly men on this thread that would drive for 8 hours or more without a food break or stopping to take a dump. Me, I stop every few hours, stretch my leges, get a coffee, etc. 15-20 minutes at a charger would be an agreeable brake in the trip. For that matter, when it comes to 8 hour drives, I tend to fly anyway.
“It is better to travel well than to arrive.”
I think that’s really a part of this; the “real men don’t drive EVs” vibe.
I blame the Prius owners that came before me….
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For someone so smart you can’t seem to be able to solve 1+1+1. You want everyone to follow your lead. Unfortunately, so do policy makers.
There are problems with that. First and foremost only a small handful of people want government dictating every aspect of our lives. Most of us say 98.2% of Americans want some freedom of choice about EVERY aspect of our life.
That includes how long we drive between stops. For me, I take breaks based on the colon corollary. I’d rather wait until I have to 💩 to stop than to stop based on some technology limiting time that is far shorter than I’m currently capable of driving with existing technology. Then an hour later have to stop again because I ate a chili cheese coney 4 hours before the first stop and that coney didn’t have the common courtesy to morph into Drano while I was recharging.
As far as not ready for prime time a path has been charted that would require a massive infrastructure upgrade that has not even entered the planning stage yet the train is barreling full speed ahead.
Here’s on example. One can file a Petro car fast enough to spend no more than 5 minutes utilizing the space by the pump. If an EV takes 20 minutes to recharge simple math dictates we to increase capacity from say 10 fueling stations to 40. Since EV’s can’t run nearly as far as a piston pounder a further increase would be required to accommodate the additional fueling these distance inferior cars will need. Minimum availability would need to be compatible with peak usage which would seem to indicate expected cold weather demand which would be quadruple or more depending on how far apart these charging stations are located. That’s based on a piston pounder getting 400 mpt regardless of temps. On the other hand the best EV gets 200 or so. But that will drop to 100 in cold weather.
The standard parking slot is 18 x 9. Let’s do the math. 400 x 9 x 18 = 64,800 sq ft
So back to the simple math let’s figure about how much space we need for charging. We know that to provide additional space for charger port for each slot. They can’t occupy the same space a car is occupying while it’s charging. The parking can be laid out in one of two ways. Either way the space requirement is the same. One way would to be to have one long row wide enough for 400 cars. Let’s assume width either way is 3 feet. So 400 x9 x 3 = 10,800 square feet. Or we could have parallel rows where 2 cars share a charging island. In that example 200 x 9 x 3 = 10,800 as well.
Finally we need to provide travel lanes. The standard is 350 sqft per slot.
More math.
400 x 350 = 140,000
So
64,800 + 10,800 + 140,000 = 216,600 or divided by 43,560 = 4.95 acres. To provide Petro fueling to provide the same combined mileage would be about 1/2 an acre.
Since we’re gonna have 40 times more at interchanges near fueling station we’ll need to upgrade the roadways. Yada, yada, yada.
Every single post you’ve made In this thread is based on a narcissistic view that what’s good for you is and should be good for everyone else. That’s either incredibly stupid or by design to be an azzhole. I’m betting on the latter.
Unlike others here I have no problem seeking alternatives to fossil fuels. It’s nuts to think that man has no effect on climate. Obviously that degree of effect will always be debated not on the merits but on political objectives.
For me to support any outcome that outcome would need to provide substantially the same capability as the technology it replaces. It must truly reduce harmful emissions not just at point of use but along the entire supply change. It must not be so high that it significantly increases the everyday financial burden we now experience.
At this point not only is there no alternatives but even those biggest EV stakeholders issue disclaimers stating such.
