LeeBot
2 years ago

Nice review, which stick number was this?

Huzza3045 wrote:


It was #1. I'm smoking them in order.
deadeyedick
2 years ago
OK here goes. Since I have been smoking more Cubans for many years my tastes have changed from stronger Nic bombs like Pepin and Tatuaje to enjoy the rich medium profiles much more often.

Cigar #1: A dark very mottled, splotchy, wrapper with almost black flecks, 5 1/2” X 50 with a crooked cap
1st impressions is this is a yard gar from it’s overall looks
Cold draw is of some molasses and earth but very light but only on the clipped head and nothing coming from the foot
Wrapper took a long time to get going but the filler started immediately with copious qty of smoke pouring out
The 1st retro showed light pepper but muted flavors
Almost immediately I get a taste of dirt maybe some earth so I’m thinking this is a habano but not any rich flavors are coming through
The draw was loose and burned a little hot with a crooked grey ash that was flaky
Wanted to tunnel and I had to correct the wrapper often which was not burning as fast as the filler - no cherry when tapped at 1 1/2” mark
No distinct flavors are coming through except dirt very mutted
Burn gets wonky at 2” I’m thinking this wrapper sucks
I quit this one with about 2” left. Iffn’ this was a car it would be a Yugo!
As Sara Peller would yell…”Where’s the beef?!”

Conclusion: I hope this is the yard gar!

Cigar #2: A dark box pressed 6X50 ‘ish with some glue on the wrapper, slightly toothy and a dull sheen. I’m thinking aged?
The wrapper had a small split about 1” up and needed to nurse it a little but never became a problem
Light barnyard on the cold draw with maybe some cedar notes
Slightly bitter on the 1st draw but seemed to settle down quickly with large volume of creamy smoke
The wrapper has a salty, sweet and roasted meat note that was very pleasant
Sharp notes of red pepper on the retro kinda bit the sinuses, only did that once
Grey ash that was firm and I tapped it at 2” more medium+ than strong profile at this point and I’m enjoying this one
Light spicyness continued with some wood and more roasted meaty goodness and creamy but stronger progression at the same time
Crooked burn towards the end needed touch up. A long aftertaste stays on the palate for hours after smoking this one.

Conclusion: Definitely a good cigar but I’m not sure iffn’ this is the 2nd tier or the premium until I try cigar #3

Cigar #3: A dark dusty looking 6X50 toro’ish parejo with a rounded triple seemed cap and some mottled tooth
Distinct sweet cocoa and dark bread note on the cold draw
1st impression is lots of velvety smoke so maybe aged or just medium strength?
Slight cinnamon on the retro but not too strong
Very straight burn line for the entire 90 minutes burn time and more medium than full
Smoke coats the palate and tongue. Pleasant aftertaste.
Notes of lemon, and some metallic taste along with slight astringency comes and goes
I’m thinking corojo wrapper or filler and I’m also think this looks like a Warped Nicotina due to the rounded head which I have smoked before

Conclusion: I liked #2 and #3 but that roasted meaty taste on #2 and some slightly weird metallic notes on #3 means I give this one second tier.

And the envelope please:

#1 La Palina Classic Rosado
#2 Opus X Forbidden Lost City (from 2016)
#3 Warped Futuro (from 2019)

Much thanks to telecaster for the chance to smoke these blind. Always a great way to challenge your taste buds without the marketing getting in the way.
Tiver
2 years ago
Great write up DED.

it's reassuring to know that AF OX has a lot to offer, while at the same time lesser priced cigars can be time well spent.

From your conclusion it would appear that the come and go metallic flavor in the Warped wasn't nearly enough of a knock to toss it in the compost bin.
Huzza3045
2 years ago
Blind review #2:
Smoke #1 from Tiver

Once again, paired with Void Sake Company Opalescent Junmai Nigori

Visual description: a romusto conny, single capped, some discoloration, firm and consistent construction throughout, a few veins. Also has an indent on the wrapper that says “risto”. I’m going to try to ignore that for the sake of a blind review.

Unlit description: not much of a taste unlit. There’s a hint of sweetness and wood, but I can’t identify anything else.

First third: the first third is kind of grassy/barnyard-y. I’m also thinking there’s a bit of walnut in there somewhere. All the flavors are very light and a bit hard to distinguish at this point.

Second third: the walnut flavor is coming on stronger and is now the primary flavor.

Third third: walnut flavor is still the predominant one, but has gotten strong than before.

Final thoughts: It’s a good stick, but doesn’t really give off much flavors to think about and doesn’t change much. Feels like a good smoke to have with a cup of coffee or while reading a book. I’m guessing it’s a good ol’ yard gar (or that’s what I’d guess if I didn’t know it was a montecristo)
Tiver
2 years ago
The "risto" evidence was insufficient and ambiguous.

It won't hold up in court or at least a conviction would be overturned on appeal. "Your Honor, we submit the warrant should not have been issued as the evidence lacked specificity "


Montecristo

Kristoff

ristorante - a list of possible house branded cigars from any number of eateries bearing the indented letters might have sent the review on an entirely different tack 🤨















😝 [jester]
Huzza3045
2 years ago
Your honor, Huzza3045 would like to motion to stike the "risto" assumption for the record. He was not aware of other brands with those letters.
jeebling
2 years ago
Palama has a ruling to make.

DED, very nice work my brother. You have a refined palate my friend.
Tiver
2 years ago
Jake's Blind number - Fred the Bull

Beeyootiful construction. Very firm, but not too heavy in the hand 5x52ish robusto

Mottled medium to slightly darker brown with several long, thin, smooth veins and a tightly seamed wrapper. Might have a slight red tone in there.

Smells of barnyard. Stronger at the foot

The straight cut cap revealed a sweeter barnyard smell. Cold draw offered a hint of dried sweet fruit flavor like a chocolate covered cherry and the wrapper had a very light spice on the lips and tongue

Toasted and light up immediately produced ample (copious) smoke with an initial dose of white pepper. A strong medium right out of the gate with a razor sharp burn. Very light gray to white tight ash. Perfect draw.

White pepper falls quickly to an oakey/woody smoke with full flavor. Retro is a little warm. Reminiscent of a quick slug of strong whisky in both flavor and heat. A quick drink of water to keep my tasters in check

Sweet wrapper taste on lips and the smokey sweet flavor lingers in the mouth well after a sip of water

Into the second third and the cigar is still as firm as when I started and the draw remains perfect. The cherry is staying right where it ought and the burn remains sharp. This cigar burns like a champ and suggests to me to smoke it slowly. It's not going to go out.

A note of some tree nuts enters and the pepper comes and goes, but there is always a background of full tobacco with that lingering sweetness. Regular sips of water keeps it in check but doesn't wash it away

Strength builds as the 2nd enters the 3rd. The pepper turns earthy and perhaps there is some seared meatiness to the flavor. I notice the nicotine has been polite, but rather obvious as I toss the nub

Final thoughts. This was a very good cigar. The flavor would easily stand up to any strong beverage that one might choose to accompany it.

Jake wasn't messing around. Both Big Grey and Fred were at least medium plus strength (for this noob anyway), but Fred was easily the superior cigar with regards to construction and balance of strength and flavor. Lord only knows what that donky deek big fella, Earl the Horse has in store.


danmdevries
2 years ago


From your conclusion it would appear that the come and go metallic flavor in the Warped wasn't nearly enough of a knock to toss it in the compost bin.

Tiver wrote:



That is a note that can be overwhelming or complimentary. I hate it in several cigars, most notably Ligma privata 9. Tastes like the sensation of licking a 9v battery. But I love it in several lines from Warped and Aganorsa and others as a complimentary addition.
jeebling
2 years ago

Jake's Blind number - Fred the Bull

Beeyootiful construction. Very firm, but not too heavy in the hand 5x52ish robusto

Mottled medium to slightly darker brown with several long, thin, smooth veins and a tightly seamed wrapper. Might have a slight red tone in there.

Smells of barnyard. Stronger at the foot

The straight cut cap revealed a sweeter barnyard smell. Cold draw offered a hint of dried sweet fruit flavor like a chocolate covered cherry and the wrapper had a very light spice on the lips and tongue

Toasted and light up immediately produced ample (copious) smoke with an initial dose of white pepper. A strong medium right out of the gate with a razor sharp burn. Very light gray to white tight ash. Perfect draw.

White pepper falls quickly to an oakey/woody smoke with full flavor. Retro is a little warm. Reminiscent of a quick slug of strong whisky in both flavor and heat. A quick drink of water to keep my tasters in check

Sweet wrapper taste on lips and the smokey sweet flavor lingers in the mouth well after a sip of water

Into the second third and the cigar is still as firm as when I started and the draw remains perfect. The cherry is staying right where it ought and the burn remains sharp. This cigar burns like a champ and suggests to me to smoke it slowly. It's not going to go out.

A note of some tree nuts enters and the pepper comes and goes, but there is always a background of full tobacco with that lingering sweetness. Regular sips of water keeps it in check but doesn't wash it away

Strength builds as the 2nd enters the 3rd. The pepper turns earthy and perhaps there is some seared meatiness to the flavor. I notice the nicotine has been polite, but rather obvious as I toss the nub

Final thoughts. This was a very good cigar. The flavor would easily stand up to any strong beverage that one might choose to accompany it.

Jake wasn't messing around. Both Big Grey and Fred were at least medium plus strength (for this noob anyway), but Fred was easily the superior cigar with regards to construction and balance of strength and flavor. Lord only knows what that donky deek big fella, Earl the Horse has in store.


Tiver wrote:




Well done, Tiver. It’s always nice to have a very good cigar 😎
jeebling
2 years ago

BLIND REVIEW CIGAR FROM LEEBOT APR ‘24
6 x 55/56ish Belicoso beautiful dark mahogany, invisible seam, small veins well distributed, cap looks very well done to this noob. Nose is fruity, foot smells have rum ball type fragrance. Chocolate covered dried fruit smells…excellent. Touch of cocoa, green apple, Levi Garrett plug cold draw. DBL guillotine flat. Kickoff burned BBQ sauce from the grill and green sour apple, savory. Grilling spices lined with a pleasant sweetness. Man, that retro is really very interesting in the best way. Green apple yielding to a strong cedar taste. Moderately astringent w/dark cocoa. Woody, earthy on the edges. Easy retro no burn, no pepper in nose. Touch of black pepper w/the other flavors. For me this falls into full bodied and I’m guessing it’s a Penn BL wrapper over ligeros. Because it’s strong I’ll just make a guess that it’s Nicaraguan and I’m still in first third. The flavor profile is so broad and has a zing, could be Sumatra inside there too. Well behaved burn line, copious amounts of smoke on draw, not a lot of smoke at rest. 35 minutes in I’m at 1” mark (!) still holding ash. 40 minutes ash drop approx 1 1/4”. Transition, milder flavors now. Toasty note. Milder. About 1 hour transition to final third. Twangy strong molasses, mild black pepper, very slight sour cherry. Cool smoker. Occasional smoked meat on retro. Installing patented Tele-nubber. Retro now burns sinuses. Very strong molasses and getting unpleasant bitter at the nub. Smoke time 1hr 35min.
The flavors on kickoff were complex, then flattened, noticeable transition in 2nd third. It was however a bit monotonous by the time i got to the nub. This has AJ Fernandez’ fingerprints on it.

Cigar 1 - yard
Cigar 2 - primo
Cigar 3 - mid
LeeBot
2 years ago
Cigar #2 from Huzza.
From the files of Jack Diamond.

It was a dark night in the city when she swayed out of my office, leaving an envelope full of cash, the smell of sex in the room, and a cigar on the table. I sat down to smoke it, thinking about the case.

This cigar looks nice. It’s well made, cold draw is good. I light it and enjoy some slight sweetness.
Sweet like that dame. She came in a couple of weeks ago boo hoo-ing about how somebody whacked her old man. He was some suit bigshot. She thought it was a hit. Wanted me to find the killer. Man, this broad was a looker– fancy looking blonde with the most amazing gray eyes I’ve ever seen. She told me she would give me a wad of cash for solving the case. She let me know she would give me something else too.

I’m getting a little chocolate from the cigar and some really nice cream. Maybe there’s criollo in the blend, some chocolate flavors lingering in the shadows ...

My first stop on the case was Muggsy’s place. Muggsy’s is the type of bar nice people don’t go in. At least once a week more people go into the place than come out. He has a special trashman on the take, see, who doesn’t open any of the bags and doesn’t ask questions. If there was a hit on the guy, Muggsy might know. He’s called “Muggsy” because of his face. Mug like a catcher’s mit that got left out in the rain after the game was called. Ugly just for the sake of being ugly.

The cream is still around. I'm really digging this cigar.

Muggsy told me that he didn't know anything. He knows I don't care about his business, so I couldn't figure out why he would lie to me. (I've known Muggsy since we was kids. He used to stutter. To this day, he has to slow down when he's lying or he'll start stuttering. Muggsy was talking real slow that night.)

I went to the suit’s office asking around, trying to find out if he had enemies. They all hated him, glad he was gone. Said he was a real heel.

Second third of this cigar is continuing like the first. The sweetness and cream take the stage, stealing the spotlight. Bread notes creeping in, like footsteps in a dark alley. A little chocolate in the background like a distant echo of trouble. Hard not to puff too fast. Like smoking a roasted marshmallow. Burn and draw? Perfect.

I was stuck on the case for a while, so I decided to go back to Muggsy's and find out why he was lying to me, squeeze somebody around there hard-like. That type of thing can go south though, fella can find himself getting taken out with the trash doin' something like that, so I was packing heat this time, carrying the .38.

After hanging out for a while, I saw my mark. Larry Fingers. Smilin' scumbag would dime on his own mother to save his hide. I waited for him to leave and leaned on him hard in the alleyway. Once I saw the sweat on his forehead, I knew I had him. I showed him the picture of the suit, and he tells me that the guy came in a couple weeks ago, had some hot dame on his arm. I asked if she had gray eyes, and he said “yes.” I asked Fingers what night of the week they came in, and he said it was a Tuesday. He remembered cause it was a slow night, and they stood out.

Then the sweat started beading on my forehead, and I started regretting the lifetime of bad decisions that led me to taking the case.

The third act of this cigar is solid as a rock. Construction, burn, draw, smoke production, all top-notch. I feel like I should know what this is, like chasing a lead in a labyrinth of deception. A little more leather, adding to the mystery. Didn't want it to end, and neither did the cigar.

I am wrapping up this final bit of the cigar thinking about the report I gave the dame. I said that somebody from his job probably had him whacked, but I couldn’t figure out who.

This was a real primo cigar. Dame had good taste. I’ll give her that.






Epilogue: So why’d I do it? Why’d I throw the case? Cause Fingers said they came in on a Tuesday.

Trash man comes on Wednesdays.

Crazy broad had her husband wacked and paid me to find the killer knowing I’d figure out she done it. She knew she could take my report to the coppers. They would ask around at his office a little, then give up. Lazy bums aren’t going to try to solve a case I can’t crack. She walks.

Why not turn her in? Cause a broad like that is a whole lot of sexy and even more crazy. If she got let off, pleading insanity or somethin’, I’m looking over my shoulder the rest of my life for the guy she hires to whack me. I’m not doin’ that for some suit I never met.

Nah … you want to know the real reason I done it? Those eyes. And cause broads like that, see, they don’t pay attention to guys like me. Not that kind of attention.


And cause she gave me a good cigar.
Sunoverbeach
2 years ago
Cigar #3 - I'm counting down this year
from Jgraz

Appearance:
Romustoish in size
Milk chocolate in color. Cap was several shades lighter. Understandable, but struck me as odd
Seams were tight. Slightly veiny with one larger one running the length of the cigar
Had a firm feel throughout the length

The Burn:
Tight draw. Couple of swipes cleared the airway
Even burn for the first inch, then hit a small void just under the wrapper and went a little crooked. Prolly beetle burrows (I keed)
Kept the same line through the rest of the smoke. No more burrows discovered and no touchups required
Ash held firm through about two inches

The Flavah:
Notes of chocolate, coffee and very light pepper to start
Had kind of a smooth creamy feel to it.
Pepper started picking up about an inch or so in
Hints of cinnamon came in to play
Halfway point to the end, pepper seesawed in and out
At low pepper points, had a caramel sweetness to it
Strength seemed to sit in the mild/med range

The WAG:
Enjoyablle smoke and rain held off just lopng enough to finish it. Preliminary tentative guess is maybe the mid tier smoke.
jeebling
2 years ago
Lee, that was a stellar short story and review. I truly enjoyed it and I hope to hear more outta Diamond. I’m buying that cigar when the great reveal happens.

SOB - romustoish lol I’m adding that to my vocabulary
Tiver
2 years ago
Nice write up Lee. If only......I mean aside from the murder and mayhem.


SOB - great description. No hotties were involved?


Jeebs - Man that's a lot of nuance there. Nice choices of descriptors.
JGRAZ
2 years ago

Cigar #3 - I'm counting down this year
from Jgraz

Appearance:
Romustoish in size
Milk chocolate in color. Cap was several shades lighter. Understandable, but struck me as odd
Seams were tight. Slightly veiny with one larger one running the length of the cigar
Had a firm feel throughout the length

The Burn:
Tight draw. Couple of swipes cleared the airway
Even burn for the first inch, then hit a small void just under the wrapper and went a little crooked. Prolly beetle burrows (I keed)
Kept the same line through the rest of the smoke. No more burrows discovered and no touchups required
Ash held firm through about two inches

The Flavah:
Notes of chocolate, coffee and very light pepper to start
Had kind of a smooth creamy feel to it.
Pepper started picking up about an inch or so in
Hints of cinnamon came in to play
Halfway point to the end, pepper seesawed in and out
At low pepper points, had a caramel sweetness to it
Strength seemed to sit in the mild/med range

The WAG:
Enjoyablle smoke and rain held off just lopng enough to finish it. Preliminary tentative guess is maybe the mid tier smoke.

Sunoverbeach wrote:




Great review SOB. I've enjoyed these for quite sometime and have to get another box at some point, sans beetles of course
LeeBot
2 years ago

BLIND REVIEW CIGAR FROM LEEBOT APR ‘24

Cigar 1 - yard
Cigar 2 - primo
Cigar 3 - mid

jeebling wrote:


Great job jeebs! You switched the yard and the primo, but that's understandable. In retrospect, I should have separated them more.

The Reveal:

#1 - Perdomo Lot 23 (meant to be the mid)
#2 Viaje Private Keep Lemon*
#3 - Diesel Unholy Cocktail. Nice job picking up that it's an AJF blend! (meant to be the yard)



* I am soooo sorry about that Viaje. I picked it out wanting to give you a brand it seemed that you hadn't tried. I pulled one for myself and smoked it after I had mailed yours. Then, I had burn problems and remembered that I had burn problems the last time I smoked one of those. Counting yours, that's 3 cigars in a row, which is just bad.

I did not want to send you a dud. I owe you a primo cigar and will make good. No need to send Knuckles after me.
jeebling
2 years ago
Hey, not too bad. Next year I hope I can get a little better. You don’t owe me anything, brother. That’s just how it goes with cigars. I’ve never had any of those cigars before so it was truly a fun experience. I would love to know what a good Viaje is like but if that’s 3 bad ones in a row maybe I’ll put that on the no fly list.
Thanks for the smokes, Lee!
danmdevries
2 years ago
Viaje is like Ezra Zion jeebling. Manufactured exclusivity. They do a lot of short run limited releases. No need for QC if 2/3 bundles you release are good, they still got your money.

Their good stuff is great. Problem is you don't know if the batch you're buying is gonna be good. And if it is good, you can't get another one. So then you hope the next one is as good. But then it's not. Or sometimes it is.
ZRX1200
2 years ago
^ ain’t that the truth….

They’ve switched production facilities I believe 3-4 times as well. The PDR rolled ones were the most problematic ones I’ve smoked.
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