rfenst
a year ago

ding ding ding ding... winner.... winner.

Faux news is already reporting he was a "registered republican" and I also saw a report that he "donated to Biden".

Come on, man...

MACS wrote:


No, you common, man!
Explain why is this a L v. R and Dem v. REP issue in any way at all?
Gene363
a year ago

No, you common, man!
Explain why is this a L v. R and Dem v. REP issue in any way at all?

rfenst wrote:



https://x.com/RepMTG/status/1812452607425712189 

Multiple years of democrat threats to Trump.

2:20 minute video.
Sunoverbeach
a year ago
I was gonna go with because it's 2024 and it's a topic. Centrists be dammed! Pick a side! Into the trenches!
Gene363
a year ago
Another story about a local policeman confronting the shooter and backing away.

"Officer encountered Trump rally gunman moments before shooting: Source | NewsNation Now"



8trackdisco
a year ago

Another story about a local policeman confronting the shooter and backing away.

"Officer encountered Trump rally gunman moments before shooting: Source | NewsNation Now"


Gene363 wrote:



A single scared cop, not fulfilling their oath to serve and protect. Sounds like Ineptitude.

Think of the 30 officers paralized with fear in Uvalde. If that can happen, this can happen.

Thanks for the share, Gene.
Abrignac
a year ago
LEO hiring standards have fallen considerably. Departments across the country are understaffed because it’s fast losing its appeal as an honorable profession.

About 10-12 years ago I had to attend two weeks of mandatory training because in my off days I detailed as a School Resource Officer. Every thing we did was based off running towards the sound of shots being fired. Our mandate was to do whatever necessary to protect the students even at the peril of our own lives. Now it seems that every time there is an active shooter situation LEO’s seem to be running away.
Gene363
a year ago

A single scared cop, not fulfilling their oath to serve and protect. Sounds like Ineptitude.

Think of the 30 officers paralized with fear in Uvalde. If that can happen, this can happen.

Thanks for the share, Gene.

8trackdisco wrote:




LEO hiring standards have fallen considerably. Departments across the country are understaffed because it’s fast losing its appeal as an honorable profession.

About 10-12 years ago I had to attend two weeks of mandatory training because in my off days I detailed as a School Resource Officer. Every thing we did was based off running towards the sound of shots being fired. Our mandate was to do whatever necessary to protect the students even at the peril of our own lives. Now it seems that every time there is an active shooter situation LEO’s seem to be running away.

Abrignac wrote:



At this point it is just a story, I do hope we do get the full story.
8trackdisco
a year ago

At this point it is just a story, I do hope we do get the full story.

Gene363 wrote:



Agreed.
Gene363
a year ago
This video includes diagrams of the buildings and the actions of the various Secret Service teams.

Secret Service Sniper Drops Would-Be Assassin



8trackdisco
a year ago

This video includes diagrams of the buildings and the actions of the various Secret Service teams.

Secret Service Sniper Drops Would-Be Assassin


Gene363 wrote:



Btw, excellent, well reasoned host. We need more people like him.
Gene363
a year ago
There may be a redeeming factor, assuming the policeman confronted the shooter just before he acted, the confrontation would have put pressure on the shooter. That pressure could have affected the aim of the shooter and caused the miss.



The officer may have alerted the SS too. I did see a post from the guy that supposedly took out the shooter, that he was on him, but permission to fire was withheld for some time, kind sounds like BS though.
Tiver
a year ago
The answer needed is why the shooter was able to get shots off at all?

If you get a piece of audio stream with the shots in the background, there are distinct differences in the sounds of the rifle reports. First several almost click sounding "pop, pop, pop" followed by several lower frequency reports. My assumption here is that the assassin's rifle report was the first and the response from the SS Sniper(s) was following.

In this snippet

https://nypost.com/2024/07/14/us-news/secret-service-blames-local-police-says-it-was-tasked-with-securing-properties-surrounding-trumps-pa-rally/ 

go to 00:40 and listen to the event. If the recording of the rifle reports is what I assume above, it presents a bit of a problem. The SS sniper team takes how long to zero in on a target once identified? I am not a rifle guy, but it seems it would take longer than the span of time between the rifle reports. So either the sniper team was already acquiring or had already acquired the target and was prepared to shoot.

If the delay was due to actively acquiring the target, the failure is a different circumstance than if the target had already been acquired and the SS sniper waited to shoot until after the assassin opened fire.
Abrignac
a year ago

At this point it is just a story, I do hope we do get the full story.

Gene363 wrote:



No doubt.

LEO hiring standards have fallen considerably. Departments across the country are understaffed because it’s fast losing its appeal as an honorable profession.

About 10-12 years ago I had to attend two weeks of mandatory training because in my off days I detailed as a School Resource Officer. Every thing we did was based off running towards the sound of shots being fired. Our mandate was to do whatever necessary to protect the students even at the peril of our own lives. Now it seems that every time there is an active shooter situation LEO’s seem to be running away.

abrignac wrote:



Regardless I stand by my assessment of the state of LEO hiring. It seems that on more than one recent occasion when there were mass school shootings LEO’s didn’t immediately run towards the sounds of gunfire. If one isn’t willing to fulfill all the obligations of wearing the badge one shouldn’t be wearing it.
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

The answer needed is why the shooter was able to get shots off at all?

If you get a piece of audio stream with the shots in the background, there are distinct differences in the sounds of the rifle reports. First several almost click sounding "pop, pop, pop" followed by several lower frequency reports. My assumption here is that the assassin's rifle report was the first and the response from the SS Sniper(s) was following.

In this snippet

https://nypost.com/2024/07/14/us-news/secret-service-blames-local-police-says-it-was-tasked-with-securing-properties-surrounding-trumps-pa-rally/ 

go to 00:40 and listen to the event. If the recording of the rifle reports is what I assume above, it presents a bit of a problem. The SS sniper team takes how long to zero in on a target once identified? I am not a rifle guy, but it seems it would take longer than the span of time between the rifle reports. So either the sniper team was already acquiring or had already acquired the target and was prepared to shoot.

If the delay was due to actively acquiring the target, the failure is a different circumstance than if the target had already been acquired and the SS sniper waited to shoot until after the assassin opened fire.

Tiver wrote:




It gets worse and worse...

https://x.com/DC_Draino/status/1812642041391915384 
rfenst
a year ago

The officer may have alerted the SS too. I did see a post from the guy that supposedly took out the shooter, that he was on him, but permission to fire was withheld for some time, kind sounds like BS though.

Gene363 wrote:


I do not believe he needed permission. !00% discretion. That makes sense to me.
Gene363
a year ago

It gets worse and worse...

https://x.com/DC_Draino/status/1812642041391915384 

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Yup, same this on Instagram.

Another video of people telling the police there is a guy on the roof:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9ccj6RilP3/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link 


The more footage that comes out from the rally, the less it looks like incompetence. Watch this, how ??




Gene363
a year ago

I do not believe he needed permission. !00% discretion. That makes sense to me.

rfenst wrote:



It makes sense to me as well, however even in Afghanistan permission had to come from above to allow shooting.
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

It makes sense to me as well, however even in Afghanistan permission had to come from above to allow shooting.

Gene363 wrote:




Rules of Engagement.

Military has their own rules.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_of_engagement 
Gene363
a year ago

Yup, same this on Instagram.

Another video of people telling the police there is a guy on the roof:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9ccj6RilP3/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link 


Gene363 wrote:




A better time synced montage of the people looking at the sniper and the actuall speech and shooting.

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1812810227739132168 

Gene363
a year ago

No doubt.



Regardless I stand by my assessment of the state of LEO hiring. It seems that on more than one recent occasion when there were mass school shootings LEO’s didn’t immediately run towards the sounds of gunfire. If one isn’t willing to fulfill all the obligations of wearing the badge one shouldn’t be wearing it.

Abrignac wrote:



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