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8trackdisco
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#61

Bystanders claimed they tipped police off minutes ahead of time. This video on CNN shows the shooter:

I also saw a video laid out in synch with Trump’s speech and it was slightly more than 2 minutes from the start of filming and screaming to shots fired. If a policeman was sent up there to check on a possible shooter as we’ve been told, Trump should’ve been pulled off stage until clear. And if that policeman did in fact go right back down why did it still take the sniper to react as opposed to acting on the threat?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/15/us/video/shooter-seen-by-attendees-one-minute-before-trump-shot-digvid

JGKAMIN wrote:

One cop saw the shooter, (aLLegEdly) the shooter aimed the weapon at the cop and the cop ran away.
What that cop did after that is a mystery

Like mentioned in another thread related to the topic, 30 cops in Uvalde Texas didn't do chit for how long? Anthony and I were discussing that.

If 30 cops freaked out (shouldn't have, but did), I'd imagine a small town PA cop would likely piz themselves as well.

Neither a conspiracy or ineptitude has been proven or disproven. Let the investigation continue.

JGKAMIN
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#62

8trackdisco wrote:

Forget “a small town PA cop” and whatever he did or didn’t do, that’s another story, forget utilizing drones for quick annd easy aerial observation, the Secret Service is in charge and would know where their own snipers are positioned. The moment they sent somebody to check on reports of a civilian on another roof that they also would’ve known nobody was authorized to be on, they should’ve had Trump off stage until it was cleared. No conspiracy, but ineptitude on a multitude of levels.

8trackdisco
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#63

No conspiracy, but ineptitude on a multitude of levels.

JGKAMIN wrote:

Certainly trending in that direction.

Whistlebritches
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#64

I do not ahve a psychologist or psychiatric degree
Sorry, but I stay in my lane and don't diagnose anyone as a result..
You shouldn't either.

As to how the D's select their candidate, it is none of your business

rfenst wrote:

You don't know my background and it is none of your business.

As to your second comment..........it damn well is.You ever heard of "WE THE PEOPLE"? That sir is exactly what is wrong with your party,back room shenanigans,no moral compass, constitution be damned........so on and so forth.The ends do not justify the means

ZRX1200
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#65

I think Robert only trusts professionals and college degrees.

It’s served us in elected officials and bureaucrats so well.

I was listening to Matt Tiabi on Tuckers show and really enjoyed hearing him discuss his dad’s time as a real reporter.

Abrignac
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#66

He is a threat to democracy in my eyes.
But, that should get get resolved at the ballot box, not gun-point.

rfenst wrote:

What is your basis for that assumption?

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#67

Lighten up JG. He’s alive, and we all accept the risk of gun violence when we go out.

Brewha wrote:

Buckle up buttercup. Look what Lefty woke to....

Well Well, He Has Three Names and DAMN! Are the Leftists Running Scared Now!

Good Morning!

Up early to see the overnight fallout from yesterday’s festivities. They came out and handed us the Patsy’s name: Thomas Matthew Crooks, a 20-year-old man from western Pennsylvania, as the cuck who attempted to assassinate OrangeManBad.

Not going to link it, as the ‘story’ is going to be a 24-7 event for a while. I will smugly say that again the “Three Named Assassin” thing just happened to pop up.

Was he a ‘wind-up toy’?
Not enough intel so far.

To make that determination, we need to know more. Like his family life, job, what weapon he had… the usual stuff. Right now, just for the fact that they allowed this assclown to successfully get within the perimeter, armed never mind taking multiple shots, I’d have to say that as of now, there’s a pretty good chance that he was.

Then, as far as getting in close and taking not one but up to three shots, by my count that is… three good, measured, cadenced shots, (which serves to tell me this guy had training IMO) and then the **** fusillade of counter-fire? Well h/t to WiscoDave for this one:

US Secret Service Failures

1. The huge American flag flying over Trump's head served as the ideal wind flag, indicating for a potential assassin wind speed and direction – such indicators are used on ALL military/security firing ranges, such indicators should have been… pic.twitter.com/XURpm4XM38
— Brian Berletic (@BrianJBerletic) July 14, 2024

Not sure but it does make sense. If anyone has any pics of any outdoor rallies where they DID fly a flag like that, hit me up in the comments or email them to me at bce187th at protonmail.

Either way, the Secret Service kids are getting roasted across the board for this obvious failure. It’s so bad that if -I- were OrangeManBad?

I’d be hiring some heavy duty for-****’ real Pipehitter Motherfuckers who shoot first and ask questions later.

Stack bodies
It’s the only way to be sure.

‘Cos the guys on that detail were retarded.

Moving on…
Lots of people out there, especially on the Left have been saying “Hurr Durrr! This was staged!” “Fake Attempt!” and the like. The fact that OrangeManBad stood up waving his fist and pumping it after the fact, to them, is proof this was faked.

Tell you what, if it was ‘faked’ then I feel bad for the guy who caught a round to the squash and was killed. In fact to tell you how **** deranged these **** are, a lot of them stated that they think that OrangeManBad is capable of allowing ‘collateral damage’ like that to get re-elected.

Sorry fuckwits… that’d be your side that allows that.

See, OrangeManBad’s reaction?
He was PISSED
Like the Bad Guy in the movie “48 Hours” (cue up to 1:39)

I have a hunch that any and all doubts about what he’s going to have do to his enemies have been utterly eliminated… the level of Revenge that OrangeManBad is thinking about right now…

No **** wonder the “Please don’t retaliate!” seems to be this A.M.’s mantra from the Left.

They’re quite rightfully scared, if not terrified.

OK
Breaking Screenshot from Twitter:

https://t.co/uTnodrnenr pic.twitter.com/Z0qlUJTEWd
— SIMPLICIUS Ѱ (@simpatico771) July 14, 2024

Now it is feasible that he was using Iron sights.
I was tagging 300 meter man-sized silhouettes in Basic Rifle Marksmanship training back in Basic after 3 weeks of BRM, which is still the standard apparently:

My problem with that poast above?
Who the **** took that picture of the shooter!?!

I mean someone on the ground saw him obviously.
Where the **** was the Secret Service!?!
Probably getting hooked up with some more Columbian Prostitutes and Blow I gather…

Seriously though…
I’d have to say seeing that picture that the SS didn’t assign their best. Add on that during the scrum, the in-close female protective detail was less than stellar as well. One chick can’t even find her holster to holster her weapon. I train drawing my piece. You end up as fast holstering as unholstering, simply because for every draw you practice, you immediately follow it with a holstering. If your draw becomes good, you will be fast and smooth holstering as well. Ask James Wesley Hardin, the famous wild west gunfighter.

The fact that she is **** around for where her holster is would indicate almost no time spent practicing her draw. It is unfucking real to me she is PSD for Trump, and she can’t find her holster, which means probably has spent close to zero time practicing getting her gun up and running in a hurry. There’s two types of gunfighters, the quick and the dead, and maaaan…

The only other thing I can think of is that whatever bull**** charges that they “convicted him” of juuuust went the **** out the window. Leastways as far as doing any time that is.

Bad enough ‘they’ just allowed some asshat to try and kill him, to try and jail him? The lyrics from that song “Smuggler’s Blues” comes leaping to mind:

“Everything exploded, and the blood began to spill….”
Indeed.
IMO, I’d say that for every drop of the OrangeManBad’s blood that dripped down on stage, five of theirs need to pay a penalty a’la Vlad The Impaler.
Seems fair donnit?

So, that’s what I have for now
More Later
Big Country

https://bigcountryexpat.com/index.php/2024/07/14/well-well-he-has-three-names-and-damn-are-the-leftists-running-scared-now/

Jonesie...I know you're at least smilin' if not laughing out loud at some of these observations.

JGKAMIN
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#68

Yeah, those comments on the holstering are spot on. In training yeah you’re shooting the target but also during the course of fire you’re drawing, shooting and holstering your weapon in a designated time frame, and sometimes even have magazine exchanges; so you practice it a lot, drawing, dry firing and holstering. You keep your holster positioned where it’s easiest to access, so holstering the weapon shouldn’t be that difficult, even in such a situation because those on these details should be the elite. And regardless of annual agency training requirements, if you’re on that detail you should be spending a lot of your own time at a range.

Edited by user a year ago | Reason: Not specified

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#69

She eventually got it in her holster and didn’t shoot herself in the foot so I think we can just call it a victory.

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#70

We hardly knew ye...

Secret Service Director 'Absolutely' Plans To Stay After Assassination Attempt On Trump

U.S. Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle says she plans to stay on in her role in the wake of the assassination attempt against former president Donald Trump at his Pennsylvania campaign rally on July 13.

It’s still unclear how 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks was able to carry an AR-15 rifle to a rooftop at the Butler Farm Show Grounds and fire multiple rounds at the former president.

In a July 16 interview with the ABC, Ms. Cheatle said that while she agreed that an individual managing to fire multiple shots at a former president under the protection of the Secret Service was “unacceptable,” she is “absolutely” going to stay on, with no plans to resign.

The incident left one person in the crowd dead, two wounded, and former president Trump—the now-confirmed GOP nominee for president—with a bullet wound in his right ear. The shooter, Thomas Matthew Crooks, was also killed.

According to Ms. Cheatle, as the person in charge of the Secret Service, she will investigate this incident to ensure there is no repeat.

“The buck stops with me. I am the director of the Secret Service, and I need to make sure that we are performing a review and that we are giving resources to our personnel as necessary,” she said.

“It was unacceptable and it’s something that shouldn’t happen again.”

Shooter Seen Before Assassination Attempt

Multiple videos posted to social media show people gathered outside the rally event, listening to former President Trump speak, while they pointed to Thomas Matthew Crooks as he lay with his rifle on the rooftop. In the recordings, several people can be heard calling for the attention of law enforcement minutes before the first shots were fired.

At least one officer with Butler Township attempted to approach Thomas Matthew Crooks by climbing onto the roof where the shooter had positioned himself, but retreated when the shooter aimed the rifle at him.

Ms. Cheatle says the shooting then started.

“I don’t have all the details yet but it was a very short period of time. Seeking that person out, finding them, identifying them, and eventually neutralizing them took place in a very short period of time, and it makes it very difficult,” she said.

Ms. Cheatle said that local authorities were tasked with securing the building where the shooter had positioned himself, as it was just outside the perimeter of areas guarded by the Secret Service. She also said that local police were present inside the building.

“In this particular instance, we did share support for that particular site and that the Secret Service was responsible for the inner perimeter,” she said.

“And then we sought assistance from our local counterparts for the outer perimeter. There was local police in that building, there was local police in the area that were responsible for the outer perimeter of the building.”

Ms. Cheatle is expected to testify before a House Oversight Committee about the incident on July 22. President Joe Biden has also called for a review.

Biden, Mayorkas Stand by Secret Service Director

In a July 15 White House press briefing, the first since the assassination attempt, press secretary Karine Jean Pierre said that President Biden still has confidence in Ms. Cheatle to perform her duties as head of the Secret Service.

Ms. Cheatle is “working hard to examine what happened” and to ensure all the people under the Secret Services protection have the “needed security,” the press secretary said.

At the same time, U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas said he has every confidence in the Secret Service to continue protecting those under its charge.

“I have 100 percent confidence in the United States Secret Service, and what you saw on stage on Saturday, with respect to individuals putting their own lives at risk for the protection of another, is exactly what the American public should see every single day,” he said.

Mr. Mayorkas also said he is committed to looking outside his department and the federal government for someone to lead an independent review of the service to ensure the process is fair and unbiased.

“The findings will indeed be made public. It is very important that we achieve transparency so that the American people have confidence in the work of the review and its findings and recommendations,” he said.

“We need to move with swiftness and urgency because this is a security imperative.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/secret-service-director-absolutely-plans-stay-after-assassination-attempt-trump

Mayorkas can't even secure our borders much less lead a security detail!

Mr. Jones
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#71

#87 DMV POST
by big country?

Yeah, we must be on the same wave length...but he has more modern lingo than I do...
That "TOOK it in the sqaush" line was too much!! ( sorry for his heroic action and loss)

Mr. Jones
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#72

P.S. that SS NAZI BEASTLY FRAMED "OLGA" DEATH CAMP GUARD LOOKIN' SECRET SERVICE DIRECTOR PEPSI FLUNKIE IS GONNA TAKE A MAJOR EXIT FALL...THE SOONER THE BETTER...

GET THAT DUMB ASS OUTTA THE DIRECTOR POSITION IMMEDIATELY,
PREFERABLLY YESTERDAY!!!