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Brewha
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a year ago

#121

After Vance served his active duty he went to Ohio State and graduated Summa **** Laude then to Yale Law School where he served as an editor for the Yale Law Journal, he also worked for Senator Schuler his first year in college. If you choose to call him hateful I’m not getting into that with you. He’s an intelligent person though. This is all I have to say about this.

jeebling wrote:

Truthfully I don’t know much about ether of them. So this is first impression.

Vance’s comments about “childless” people and his pushing of anti-immigrant sentiments is what I’ve got to go on. Maybe he is a paragon of virtue- but I’m not seeing it.

Academic attainment does not an intellectual make……

RayR
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a year ago

#122

Brewha wrote:

So you admit you don't know much of anything except your first impressions? 😞

jeebling
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a year ago

#123

Brewha wrote:

Perhaps you are correct about your interpretation of Vance’s motives but I disagree. Still yet, going to Yale Law School is, in my opinion, a strong indicator that the person is far from a crayon eating moron. I think that is just something hateful to say in the absence of a rational criticism. No evidence given but just name calling to prop up a made up and incorrect narrative.

DrMaddVibe
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a year ago

#124

So…responding to Jeeb’s question about Walz seeming like an intellectual, I would characterize Walz as a coach type personality. I was not suggesting that it was his vocation. As an example, remember that last time you spoke with someone trained in the hard sciences that was erudite and -
Ok, maybe that is a bad example for you.
You know how Cops all seem like cops even when they are off duty? So, a personality type like that. He seems like a coach to me.

Interesting how you seem to think that hate speak is ok because it is also free speech. You may disagree, but most of us think there are limits to free speech. It is in fact a point of law.

Brewha wrote:

Can you give an example or not?

I didn't ask for his personality. We all know what that is and it's repugnant. His vocation? Was a teacher and that was as flawed as his military career! That's not open for any debate. Teaching children that Communism is good and shoving tampon machines into Boys restrooms...hardly someone I want or need in a classroom. Ever.

I've had teachers I've disagreed with. It's not going to give you a passing grade. They never failed me for it but lets say I got a lot of "C's" that when graded by another professor were given A minus and solid B...That's mileage and part of why I say that uttering "The King isn't wearing any clothes" is a blessing and a curse. Gotta take the sour to have the sweet.

I've described my stance on Free Speech. I'll do it again...I might not agree with what you have to say, but you have a right to say it. I've defended that right for you and a lot of stupid people making public utterances as well. What is the most hateful thing you've heard Vance say? Context as well please.

Tic tock...Harris Hiding In Public Tour is almost over. Needs to define how Build Back Better needs to be better on Day 1 when she's the one that kept Pedo Joe in power all these years without invoking (and doing her JOB!) the 25th Amendment and relieving him of duty for being unfit to serve in that capacity!

Brewha
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a year ago

#125

jeebling wrote:

It is a fair call out you make. You do have to give me that my sarcastic characterization of him is unfortunately common practice here on Cbid - particularly against those on the left.

My honest criticisms of him are:
His criticality of the "childless" and general intolerance from what appears to be his fundamentalist attitude.
His selling of an unfounded "crisis" in Springfield - and there by causing one that is both real and damaging.
His running mate.

DrMaddVibe
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a year ago

#126

An educator and leader he is NOT!

Tim Walz Brags About Passing Laws That Restrict Speech

Tim Walz knows better, and if he doesn’t, one might suggest a quiet evening re-reading the American Constitution.

This week, a federal court will take up a case challenging a 2023 Minnesota law that prohibits employers from discussing religious or political matters at required meetings, including meetings on elections, regulations, and whether employees should join a union.

According to a recent Wall Street Journal editorial, Gov. Tim Walz, D-Minn., bragged about the impact of the new law, saying that employers will either have to toe the line or be sent to jail.

Making matters worse, Walz also personally appointed all the members of Minnesota’s teacher licensing board, which recently instituted new rules restricting and coercing teachers’ speech. These new regulations “require educators to ‘affirm’ their students’ gender identities, have ‘racial consciousness,’ and learn to ‘disrupt oppressive systems,’” according to Fox News. Count me in as one of those who are shocked yet perhaps not terribly surprised that Walz believes that there should be no guarantees to free speech in America.

Couple Walz’s attacks on free speech with attempts from the political left (and Walz’s attorney general in particular) to put public pressure on social media platforms, such as Elon Musk’s X, and the message is clear. Our First Amendment is under attack.

Thomas Jefferson’s response to accusations that we are entertaining too much liberty was to compare our freedom of speech and the press directly with our freedom of religion. Namely, that a violation of any one freedom would be a violation of all the others, and “that libels, falsehood, and defamation, equally with heresy and false religion, are withheld from the cognizance of federal tribunals.”

Our First Amendment rights are no less sacred to Virginians than our Statute for Religious Freedom. Yet more than platitudes, policies limiting speech speak more to the values of East Germany than American freedom.

When we see social media spaces pressured into censorship, or when we see political opinions forced upon the vast majority by government fiat, one wonders aloud whether we really believe in what the words democracy and freedom entail.

For Jefferson, truth had nothing to fear so long as reason was left free to combat it. Virginians and Americans understand that our First Amendment rights are not polite codes of behavior, but rather a sacred duty and a charge.

Yet in today’s world, we see more of the impulse to control narratives rather than allow ideas to be freely challenged and explored. Walz is only saying the quiet part out loud. In today’s relentless media culture, counterpoints are not merely inconvenient to the narrative; they are dangerous to those seeking to impose their values on an unsuspecting public.

Critics and little Robespierres will always be quick to charge that such freedom is dangerous to their interests. Such critics are probably worth the criticism. Yet there are two areas in particular that Walz mentions, namely whether there is the freedom to be odious and hateful in the public square, and likewise whether one has the right to spread misinformation under the First Amendment.

Let me be explicitly clear on this point. Acts of hate are neither ignored nor tolerated in Virginia. As Virginia attorney general, I have exhausted this office in identifying and prosecuting violence, whether it is the targeting of Jewish students on college campuses or our African American citizens.

Yet as the U.S. Supreme Court has made clear time and time again, no one in a free society has the right not to be offended. No one in America has the right never to be challenged on his opinions or views. Everyone has the right to be wrong.

Obviously there are laws against defamation and libel in the United States, though nowhere near as draconian as the laws in other nations. In such instances, we are not talking about the free exercise of speech or press but rather their abuse. Yet our latitude in such instances tests the very meaning of the word inexhaustible, precisely because our faith in our fellow human beings ought to be likewise.

This Jeffersonian optimism was once the hallmark of Americans in both political parties. Consisting of a singular belief in the promise of the American spirit, our shared belief in the common goodness of our friends and neighbors is the spirit that made America great. Self-governance and self-government should triumph above every busybody and scold.

We lost this spirit, or at the very least we allowed ourselves to be distracted from this optimism by the times. Yet every Sept. 11, we seem to remember who we are. Every July 4, we seem to remember that no matter what we might believe or what opinions we might hold, together we are all Americans. Our differences remain our strength.

For myself, the idea that such differences should be stomped out by a heavy-handed thought police isn’t just the difference between Minnesota and Virginia; it’s the difference between a former Soviet republic and the American experiment.

What Ronald Reagan understood and what Jefferson believed about our basic constitutional freedoms enshrined in the First Amendment stand entirely at odds with how the Biden administration has operated and what Tim Walz believes is necessary for an open public square.

Freedom of speech and freedom of the press are values as old as Jefferson, and rights that no government can suppress for long. Our First Amendment is first for a reason. Tim Walz knows better, and if he doesn’t, one might suggest a quiet evening re-reading the American Constitution.

https://thefederalist.com/2024/09/16/tim-walz-brags-about-passing-laws-that-restrict-speech/

Oh, he KNOWS exactly why he's advocating for a clampdown on Free Speech. He's a Communist sympathizer running for VP with a kook.

Brewha
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a year ago

#127

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Ah, but that is what I was talking about.

now what was it you wanted an example of?

jeebling
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a year ago

#128

Brewha wrote:

Fair enough on the sarcasm 😎 I don’t see the other issues as severe as you see them. I’ll make it a point to listen w/o bias to Vance and the critical response he receives. I’m not pretending I can be totally w/o bias but I definitely can try.

JGKAMIN
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a year ago

#129

Perhaps you are correct about your interpretation of Vance’s motives but I disagree. Still yet, going to Yale Law School is, in my opinion, a strong indicator that the person is far from a crayon eating moron. I think that is just something hateful to say in the absence of a rational criticism. No evidence given but just name calling to prop up a made up and incorrect narrative.

jeebling wrote:

Ehhh, John Fetterman got a Master of Public Policy degree from Harvard University.:-k

jeebling
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a year ago

#130

Ehhh, John Fetterman got a Master of Public Policy degree from Harvard University.:-k

JGKAMIN wrote:

Fair enough…but Public Policy…c’mon

RayR
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a year ago

#131

Tim Walz Education Appointee is an Advocate for Critical Race Theory – Called for the U.S. to be ‘Overthrown’ (VIDEO)

by Mike LaChance Sep. 25, 2024 9:20 pm

A man named Brian Lozenski, who was appointed by Minnesota Governor Tim Walz to oversee education curriculum, is an advocate for the radical concept of Critical Race Theory and has called for the overthrow of the United States.

This is who Tim Walz places his trust in because this is who Tim Walz is.

Numerous states across the country are in the process of removing CRT and DEI policies from their public schools and universities because it is divisive and anti-American. Meanwhile, Walz has embraced it.

Stanley Kurtz broke the story at National Review:

Walz Education Appointee Calls for the Overthrow of the U.S.

Brian Lozenski, an associate professor of urban and multicultural education at Macalester College in Saint Paul, Minn., was appointed by Governor Tim Walz’s state education department to help write the statewide “implementation framework” (similar to a curriculum) for Minnesota’s new “ethnic studies” standards. It now emerges that Lozenski has called for the “overthrow” of the United States.

Lozenski is no outlier. On the contrary, he has been the leading voice advocating the addition of a radical version of “ethnic studies” to Minnesota’s social-studies standards (citizenship and government, economics, geography, history, and now ethnic studies). Lozenski is also the key organizer and thought leader for the radical leftist advocacy groups that Governor Walz has effectively put in charge of rewriting Minnesota’s social-studies standards.

While Lozenski’s call for the overthrow of the United States is the clearest expression of his radical stance to date, it’s hardly surprising. For years, conservative voices in Minnesota have sounded the alarm over the extremism of Lozenski and his allies. Maybe now, Walz will have to answer for putting Lozenski and his friends in charge of education in the state.

Watch the video below where Lozenski speaks candidly about his beliefs.

MORE...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/09/tim-walz-education-appointee-is-advocate-critical-race/

Tell me why the government should be in charge of what to teach children.:-k

Clearly, Comrade Walz is a radical who wants to tear it all down and remake America into a Leftist vision of Utopia. Like his appointee, Lozenski said, "The United States needs to be deconstructed, period."

DrMaddVibe
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a year ago

#132

So...much...coaching...

Tim Walz Bragged of Mass Immigration Overwhelming Small Minnesota Town’s Schools with 50 Languages: ‘Beautiful Diversity’

Gov. Tim Walz (D), Vice President Kamala Harris’s running mate, once bragged about mass immigration overwhelming a small town in southern Minnesota — calling the situation an example of “beautiful diversity.”

In late 2019, Breitbart News reported extensively on Worthington, Minnesota. With fewer than 14,000 residents, the town’s taxpayers were forced to hike taxes to the sum of tens of millions to expand the school district because of a rapid increase in migrant children enrolling.

Much of that mass immigration in Worthington is the result of the federal government’s Unaccompanied Alien Children (UAC) program and the fact that a JBS Pork slaughterhouse attracts newly arrived migrants to the area.

During a gubernatorial debate in October 2022, Walz bragged about the mass immigration that has inundated Worthington for decades now — spinning it as a positive thing that several dozen languages are now spoken in the town’s schools.

“We are a state of immigrants that values that. We have more refugees per capita than any other state. That’s not just morally a good thing — it’s our economic and cultural future,” Walz said:

This beautiful diversity we see out in Worthington when I’m there, you see 50 languages spoken in the school and you see every storefront filled with different types of foods, different types of businesses that are happening. Minnesota needs to continue to do that. The Office of Governor can set the tone on that. [Emphasis added]

Worthington, since the year 2000, has seen its foreign-born population balloon to almost 30 percent of the town’s population. About 24 years ago, the town’s foreign-born population was half what it is today.

Minnesota is one of several states spending billions to teach American English to newly arrived migrant children enrolled in its school districts. With more than 75,000 English learners, Minnesota taxpayers paid nearly $1.2 billion to fund its English as a Second Language (ESL) program in 2020.

In June, a statewide look at Minnesota’s public schools revealed alarming trends.

From 2019 to 2022, the percentage of fourth graders in the state who are not proficient in reading has increased from 62 percent to almost 70 percent. Likewise, eighth graders not proficient in math increased from 56 percent in 2019 to nearly 70 percent in 2022.

Perhaps most alarming, almost a third of all students in the state were deemed “chronically absent” in the 2021-2022 school year, meaning they missed 10 percent or more school days.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/30/tim-walz-bragged-mass-immigration-overwhelming-small-minnesota-towns-schools-50-languages-beautiful-diversity/

Tampons for all boys...girls too...as long as they identify as boys and can pee standing up...on their heads...on real girls with vaginas.

RayR
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a year ago

#133

I heard Comrade Timmy has been being coached by Mayor Pete.
Lefty media says that Comrade Timmy is really nervous about the debate tonight.
So Mayor Pete has been holding his hand.

DrMaddVibe
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a year ago

#134

I heard Comrade Timmy has been being coached by Mayor Pete.
Lefty media says that Comrade Timmy is really nervous about the debate tonight.
So Mayor Pete has been holding his hand.

RayR wrote:

You mean Tampon Timmay A-Walz isn't being chestfed by Mayor Buttplug?

RayR
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a year ago

#135

You mean Tampon Timmay A-Walz isn't being chestfed by Mayor Buttplug?

DrMaddVibe wrote:

I don't know about how Mayor Buttplug is calming his nerves.
They probably discussed their favorite brands of tampons though.

DrMaddVibe
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a year ago

#136

I thought Coachy McCoacherton was so much of a Coach that he could Coach the best and we ALL know if the Coach is afraid it's because he knows his opponent is better than them because they prepared better and had better talent.

BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!

Tim Walz Is Terrified Ahead of Debate with JD Vance, Campaign Insiders Say

Vice President Kamala Harris and her surrogates must have some special insight into psychological manipulation.

Otherwise, one struggles to account for the strange reports and behavior coming out of the Harris campaign in recent days.

For instance, on Monday CNN’s Edward-Isaac Dovere reported that Democratic Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota has fought intense nerves ahead of Tuesday’s vice-presidential debate against Republican Sen. J.D. Vance of Ohio, former President Donald Trump’s running mate.

Nearly a dozen Harris campaign insiders confirmed Walz’s frequent expressions of pre-debate anxiety.

Why exactly they would reveal such a thing remains a mystery.

Axios speculated that the CNN report amounted to “expectation management.”

Dovere, however, specifically noted that “aides insist this isn’t just about setting expectations.”

Of course, if you intended to set low expectations for Walz, you would hardly admit to it.

Thus, the aides’ denial of intent to set such expectations makes sense. But their openness about Walz’s apparent nerves still does not.

Then again, it made no obvious sense when, late last week, the Harris campaign sent out a fundraising email that highlighted Trump’s polling strength in the three anticipated swing states of Arizona, Georgia and North Carolina.

Nor did it make obvious sense when, last Wednesday, Democratic Rep. Elissa Slotkin of Michigan admitted that pollsters for her Senate campaign have Harris “underwater” in that crucial swing state.

Perhaps both Slotkin and the Harris campaign merely tried to spur fundraising by intensifying donors’ sense of urgency.

Otherwise, highlighting the vice president’s polling weaknesses probably strikes most observers as an amateurish act of extreme desperation.

In short, either Democrats have no idea what they are doing, or they have stumbled upon a psychological tactic that they believe will influence the minds of voters whom they need to capture.

One cannot dismiss the latter possibility.

In fact, for reasons few conservatives instinctively understand, the Harris campaign’s admission of Walz’s nervousness has powerful, manipulative potential.

For instance, one suspects that when most conservatives think of Walz they immediately remember his stolen-valor scandal. Perhaps, too, they recall his record as a COVID-era tyrant, as well as his unhealthy interest in children’s sexuality.

In other words, we see in Walz a combination of dishonesty, cowardice and even creepiness. And we regard his authoritarian bullying as a sign that he probably has deep feelings of personal inadequacy.

Needless to say, no society in human history has ever recognized those qualities as “masculine.” Yet Democrats have gone out of their way to depict Walz as a harbinger of a new kind of masculinity.

“The guy is reclaiming old White dude masculinity away from toxicity,” one unnamed Walz acquaintance told Dovere.

Thus, viewed as part of a larger project to redefine masculinity itself, the Harris campaign’s decision to reveal Walz’s nervousness in the face of a superior debater like Vance makes total sense.

How else might this constitute manipulation?

Keep in mind that Democrats, particularly in the age of wokeness, regard one’s alleged victimhood as empowering. The more beleaguered you claim to be — never mind the truth of it — the more the world owes you.

With that in mind, they have perverted and weaponized basic human compassion.

To accomplish this, they have inverted the plain meaning of words. In that way, censorship becomes democracy, so you must support the censors. Men can become women, so you must allow every dress-wearing male into your daughter’s spaces. And strength becomes oppression, so you must admire all forms of professed weakness.

Concurrently, they have created categories of alleged victims toward whom, they say, one must direct one’s compassion. Most of these categories involve skin color or chromosomes. While Walz’s whiteness and maleness would otherwise exclude him, his new and trailblazing brand of “old White dude masculinity” actually makes him a perfect candidate.

It all comes together in the mind of a woke Democrat.

Thus, had Walz simply appeared on the debate stage Tuesday, viewers would have had no reason to think anything unusual.

Now, however, Harris campaign operatives have prepped viewers with reports of Walz’s nervousness. In so doing, they have made him an object worthy of this new, perverted compassion.

Does all of this sound far-fetched? Perhaps it is. Perhaps it gives the Democrats too much credit. After all, the Harris campaign might simply qualify as desperate and amateurish.

Nonetheless, totalitarian Marxists have shown for more than a century that they understand psychological manipulation. So we cannot entirely dismiss the possibility that Harris and her surrogates, in their odd way, know exactly the effect that news of Walz’s nerves will have on viewers already conditioned to new conceptions of masculinity and compassion.

https://www.westernjournal.com/tim-walz-terrified-ahead-debate-jd-vance-campaign-insiders-say/

This idiot is more like Elmer Fudd than Bill Belichick! Jazz hands everybody!!! Wave to imaginary people that you think you need to connect to...high kick girls...get those legs up...higher!

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DrMaddVibe
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a year ago

#137

Cudda had Shapiro...nope. That move would've made PA a very very hard state to flip. Instead she went with Tampon Timmay A-Walz. A governor that locked down his state harder that most and jailed people for violating his orders. Minnesota...a state that even Ronald Reagan couldn't secure.

Tim Walz Isn’t Helping Kamala Harris, He’s Hurting Her

He’s failing to win over white men and hasn’t secured any crucial swing states for Harris.

Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz talked a huge game during his first appearance with Vice President Kamala Harris, his Democrat running mate. “I can’t wait to debate the guy,” he said of Sen. J.D. Vance, his Republican opponent from Ohio. “That is, if he’s willing to get off the couch and show up.”

Walz’s tune has changed so dramatically now that it’s unrecognizable. “Tim Walz is telling people he’s just as nervous about facing JD Vance as he was the Sunday afternoon in August when he warned Kamala Harris in his running mate interview that he was a bad debater,” said CNN’s Edward-Isaac Dovere. A dozen Walz operatives report the governor is absolutely terrified of “letting Harris down.” His constant mockery of Vance for rising from poverty in Appalachia to graduating from Yale Law School is reframed as a “glimpse into his anxiety” about going up against Vance’s superior intellect.

Other media outlets are also trying to lower expectations for Walz, reminding anyone who will listen that vice presidential debates rarely move the needle.

But Walz was picked precisely because he was supposed to move the needle with an important demographic Democrats are struggling to win over: men. And he was going to do it with a form of masculinity that the media claimed was so effective that it was terrifying for Republicans.

“Tim Walz’s Masculinity Is Terrifying to Republicans,” Bloomberg wrote in August. The New York Times said Walz exemplifies “a kind of healthy masculine confidence,” citing his ease speaking about his difficulties impregnating his wife, his desire to be the faculty advisor of a gay club for children, and his decision to put tampons in boys’ restrooms. (It should perhaps be noted that Walz either lied about or was deeply confused about the circumstances of his children’s conceptions.)

Axios said Walz — and Harris’ husband Doug Emhoff — offered a new vision of masculinity, one that emphasizes “tenderness” over “toughness.” (Emhoff, for what it’s worth, caused the end of his first marriage by reportedly impregnating his children’s nanny. It is unclear if the child survived or not.) Both men were praised by Axios for “embracing their second-fiddle roles.”

In The Atlantic, Mark Leibovich wrote with confusion about why Walz — who he described as a “convincing beta figure” — isn’t being used as a media surrogate more. “It’s a bit of a mystery why Walz has largely stopped doing national media, especially given how effective he was over the summer. The campaign seems to have trapped him in the same hyper-protective Bubble Wrap it has placed around Harris,” Leibovich wondered, apparently witnessing a different campaign than the rest of the country.

It’s a real mystery, Mark Leibovich. In his one national interview with sympathetic CNN activist Dana Bash, he said the reason why he lied about his military service was because he struggled with grammar.

The lies are a real problem. Walz overstated the rank at which he retired from the National Guard, and people under his command soon told the story of how he quit rather than face an overseas deployment. That was also different than the story he’d repeatedly told while in Congress. More recently we learned he lied about how many times he’d been to China — he had claimed during a congressional hearing that he’d been there 30 times while it was closer to a still-high 15 occasions. And he even lied about whether or not he was in Hong Kong during the Tiananmen Square massacre.

The media keep asserting without evidence that Harris made a good pick with Walz. Of J.D. Vance, who takes on media propagandists all day every day, the media say he was a bad pick. It’s not Walz’s sole fault that his boss lady is struggling, but he’s certainly not helping Harris with what he was supposed to. National and state-based polls vary but Harris has routinely run five to ten points behind Biden at this point in the 2020 race.

Walz was supposed to help with white men who were leaving the Democrat Party in droves. Instead, the problem is growing. Trump is doing better than ever with Latino voters. He’s getting record high support among black men. He has more working class support than ever.

Rather than pick Gov. Josh Shapiro, a competent governor from the must-win state of Pennsylvania, Harris chose Walz, who is a middling governor from a state so blue that it even voted Democrat in 1984. Walz’s alleged midwestern appeal isn’t yielding the desired results in Michigan, where Rep. Elissa Slotkin was caught telling donors that Harris is currently losing. It didn’t have to be Shapiro. Gov. Roy Cooper of North Carolina or Sen. Mark Kelly of Arizona would have been also been an asset and come from states Harris would like to win.

The only argument for picking Walz is that Harris is so insecure about her own weaknesses that she didn’t want to pick someone smarter or more competent than she is.

“Walz is a buffoon. I’m sorry. This guy, he’s the only schoolteacher in America who brags that none of his students can get into an Ivy League school. He’s had one consequential press interaction with our Dana Bash, who asked him about the fabrications in his own resume. And his answer was essentially, ‘Me no understand words good.’ I mean, he is a buffoon,” said Scott Jennings. “They don’t let him talk to the press for a reason.”

During the Oct. 1 debate, Americans who watch will see whether the media characterizations of Vance and Walz are true or not. Expect the media to come out of it looking like liars, again.

https://thefederalist.com/2024/10/01/tim-walz-isnt-helping-kamala-harris-hes-hurting-her/

A-Walz isn't a coach....he isn't a player. He's a little bitch.

JGKAMIN
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a year ago

#138

If last night’s debate was a football game it would’ve been 63-7 with the losing home team getting with the referees, who gave them every call in the book, to speed up the clock via the mercy rule. One side had somebody with a calm, cool presence while the other had someone that seemed like it was their first public speaking engagement, had awful body language, facial expressions and quirks and tried to get his lines in regardless if they actually answered the questions.

RayR
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a year ago

#139

^ Don't be so hard on Tampon Tim. He did have a moment of honesty when he called himself a "knucklehead".

There's was a lot of post-debate fact-checking going on.

No matter that Vance was a cool and professional debater, the usual lefty fake news talking heads still said Walz won.

IN COMPLETE DENIAL: MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow and Joy Reid Insist That Tim Walz Won the VP Debate (VIDEO)

J.D. Vance won the vice presidential debate tonight. People on social media are saying it. Even CNN is saying it.

And yet, as you can probably imagine, the folks over at MSNBC are in total denial of reality, saying that Tim Walz won the debate.

They were going to say this no matter what happened. They are simply incapable of admitting the truth if the truth looks good for Trump and Vance.

Who knows if they even really believe what they’re saying here?

MORE...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/complete-denial-msnbcs-rachel-maddow-joy-reid-insist/

ZRX1200
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a year ago

#140

And apparently pretending to take notes is a thing.

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