DrafterX
a year ago

Never lost power for long here. 2hrs tops in 15 years.

Storm knocked out power for 80k people last night. 65k as of a minute ago.

We been out 12 hours now. Generator got fridge freezer and sump pump duty. No water tho, well pump trips generator overload protection on startup.

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Bummer... but it's a good thing you don't live in Gene's hood... 😟
Gene363
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a year ago
Good Friday Morning to All! It's a cloudy 84° on the way to 94° today.


Hang in there Dan. If the genset capacity is close to the pump requirements, eliminating any long cords with a direct hookup might allow the generator to get it running.
deadeyedick
a year ago
Friday mornin smoky folks.
MACS
a year ago
Thought about a whole house Generac... looked into it. Would cost about 15k because I would need gas lines and a propane tank.

Been here 3 years. Storms come and go, but JEA is pretty good about restoring power quickly. Haven't had any issues yet... and 15k for something that would be pretty rare seems like a bit too much.
Gene363
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a year ago

Thought about a whole house Generac... looked into it. Would cost about 15k because I would need gas lines and a propane tank.

Been here 3 years. Storms come and go, but JEA is pretty good about restoring power quickly. Haven't had any issues yet... and 15k for something that would be pretty rare seems like a bit too much.

MACS wrote:



One neighbor paid $20k plus to get one installed. In 23 years we lost a refrigerator full of food twice, roughly $1,500. During the recent hurricane we did spend eight plus days without power, it was a PITA, but not worth $20k, IMO. My wife thinks it is, but she hasn't mentioned it lately. :-"
MACS
a year ago
^Yep... doesn't pass the cost/benefit analysis IMO.

However... if we had gas lines in my neighborhood and I didn't need the lines or the tank? Probably would have done it.
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a year ago

^Yep... doesn't pass the cost/benefit analysis IMO.

However... if we had gas lines in my neighborhood and I didn't need the lines or the tank? Probably would have done it.

MACS wrote:



Exactly and it's much worse for solar panels, though they do pay back over time, but I'm not convinced it will before 25 or thirty years, at that point I'll likely be long dead and I don't think my family want$ this house.
MACS
a year ago

Exactly and it's much worse for solar panels, though they do pay back over time, but I'm not convinced it will before 25 or thirty years, at that point I'll likely be long dead and I don't think my family want$ this house.

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Solar panels are idiotic. I did the math in CA and I did the math here in FL... your bill will be to the solar panel company, and not the power company. It will be slightly lower for some months and by the time you pay them off, guess what? You need new panels.

Pay cash for them. 30k up front. That's $100 a month for 25 years. Sounds great, right? Well... not so much for me. Still have to pay water/sewage... and anything you produce FOR the grid that gets used by the power company to make money?

Yeah... you get nothing. A credit... which you'll never need or use since you're producing your own power plus more... for which they charge other people.
RobertHively
a year ago

A comfy 68 degrees, no wind. Moderate rain earlier.

Anyway...

Checking in.

Checking out.
delta1
a year ago
bought a $700 ($850 todays price) Champion gasoline powered portable generator to protect against prolonged power outage 8 years ago...haven't needed it since we got it ...reminds me: I need to change the fuel and run it a bit ...



since the generator purchase, we moved to a house that already had/has a paid for solar panel system...we didn't pay any extra for the system, based on home values of comparables at the time...most months we get a credit, a couple of months we pay less than $70/mon if we heat the pool or run the jacuzzi...

neighbor across the street recently had a solar panel system installed...he works for SoCal Edison, ironically...has a pool that he's using more often as his boys are getting older...said his electric bills were $400 plus from May to October...figures the solar panels will pay for themselves in about 10 years...
DrafterX
a year ago
I've got a 8000 watt gas powered generator that runs the house just fine.. except for the heat pump.. but my furnace is dual-fuel so all I need is 120v to run it in the winter if needed.. 😟
danmdevries
a year ago

^Yep... doesn't pass the cost/benefit analysis IMO.

However... if we had gas lines in my neighborhood and I didn't need the lines or the tank? Probably would have done it.

MACS wrote:



I was real close to buying/installing one when I bought my house. I even wired in a box on the back of the house to connect. Now it's just a 220v outlet.

Cost was about $6k for the unit and I'd install myself. But my dad who worked for the utility company as the person who switches power sources/lines to restore power n stuff said that unless a transmission line goes down and takes out the whole town or a line comes down on your street, you're not gonna lose power. We're right in the middle of 3 substations and he was right, no power loss for a significant time in 15 years.

I used to have an open cage generator, 4500w. It could run the well pump. My 3500w inverter on paper can do it, but it's too sensitive to a startup load. The well is on a 15a circuit, my ammeter says it pulls about 13a peak. But it's just the startup. It's an inverter generator so it's made to protect sensitive things plugged into it and won't allow a voltage drop.

Power came back on around 1800. 22 hours without power. Only time in 15 years and other than one small basement flood I've really never had any problems from losing power. We did lose it for a couple hours in an ice storm. By the time I had disconnected the wires to the furnace to attach to a cable to the generator the power came back on.

Still don't think I need a whole house genset. Would be an appreciated luxury, but there's plenty other things I don't need but would like to have instead.
DrafterX
a year ago
Had an ice storm here about 25 years ago that knocked out power for a week... didn't have a generator at that time unfortunately... but it's amazing how you can adapt.. it was no big deal really after a few days.. most days were spent on da chainsaw clearing fallen trees and branches with the neighbors.. wasn't all bad because everyone was cooking what was in their freezers.. we all ate well.. 😟
rfenst
a year ago

Thought about a whole house Generac... looked into it. Would cost about 15k because I would need gas lines and a propane tank.

Been here 3 years. Storms come and go, but JEA is pretty good about restoring power quickly. Haven't had any issues yet... and 15k for something that would be pretty rare seems like a bit too much.

MACS wrote:


I suggest it if you can swing it.

As an aside, I have a 250 gal. gas tank (for my hot tub) that I rent for like $100/year. Hope that helps you.

And, don't wait until you suffer from either a frozen, wet/icy, winter storm freezes over or a hurricane, either of which could knock you of the grid.

I have been through it too many times for like 4-5 days and once even 7 days of misery. Probably have lost like $1,500 in food over the years. Plus all the miserable nights and/or hotel bills.

It's a piece of mind thing.
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a year ago
Good Saturday Morning to All! Our POA is having a food truck outing today.
Ram27
a year ago
Saturday greetings Cbid gang...........[ram27bat]
8trackdisco
a year ago
Busy few days.
Drove GB to South Milwaukee (2+ hour drive) to pick up a hood. Was about 10 minutes from arriving when the boss called, saying the part was damaged. Pull over and sit tight.

Ten minutes later, was rerouted to Dubuque, Iowa (3+ hours).

All in, 9 hours and 548 miles. Boss gave me the honor of winning the Iron Butt Award.

Regular pay, however, reimbursed me for expenses and a $38 tip.

I’Z RICH, BEEEEEOTCH!
Ram27
a year ago
As for whole house generators, when I had my home, I had a regular gas generator, had an electrician install a line into the main panel box, which would go into the generator. If the power went out, turned off the main panel box electrical switch and switched to the generator switch. Was able to have power through the house. Cost wise way less than another alternative.
DrafterX
a year ago
😎 Dudes....
rfenst
a year ago
Kids are home this weekend to purge or their rooms so that we can put the house on the market next week and move South to Boca Raton or Coral Gables within 30-90 days!
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