jetblasted
Monday, December 26, 2005 8:24:00 AM
I just wish that people who are suicidal would understand what their actions do to those left behind . . .
cigarbidwidow
Monday, December 26, 2005 8:29:00 AM
I think that is the only thing that keeps a lot of people from succeeding. Somehow something gets through before they complete what they are trying. I know my girlfriends daughter is probably the only thing that keeps her from being successful.

I think the problem is that they can't think rationally when they feel like that. I guess since I have known her so long and my ex is bi-polar, I have a little bit of an understanding.

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Monday, December 26, 2005 8:36:00 AM
jet

i totally agree with you!

like with Tony Dungy's son......maybe if they had saw his website "before" that tragety.....it may have been prevented.

but now they see it and it hurts worse.

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Monday, December 26, 2005 8:41:00 AM
Baron Porthos
Monday, December 26, 2005 4:09:00 PM
Ya'll are deep on this one. I worked with teenagers for twenty years in residential treatment. Guilt and empathy are two things that keep people from following through. I can't tell you how many different kids were helped not by my supporting their doctors approach but through teaching them how to live life rather than waiting for life to happen to them. I could go on for days.

tarheel good job bringing this up for us to ponder. I know today sucks. But I have great potential.

Never waste an opportunity to fish or play with conversation about hurtful things. We all have things that have made us question wtf is going on. I think this is the board I read "when you are going through hell don't stop". I agree. I got another one for you from a friend of mine; " put your faith in God but row away from the rocks." I wish it was as simple as my saying to you I love you. I need you to believe you are lovable. I can only do that by sharing joy in my life, created because you are a part of it. So on to the shared experience take your best cigar and burn that f*&^er slow and savor every taste, the feel of the wrapper, the texture of the smoke coming in, going out... Live life like a wasted moment is stolen never to return. The past is unchangeable. It is because of your thoughts and experiences that I like who you are today. That you have survived is what is remarkable not how it happened. We are here and have great potential.

PEACE my brothers and sisters of the leaf.

GDColson
Monday, December 26, 2005 8:24:00 PM
Thing is, jet, in their depression logic, they truly believe that everyone would be better off without them.

This stuff really messes with any rational thought they may have when they feel "normal".

TopJimmy
Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:19:00 AM
Tar, thanks for the post. i actually thought that it was strange i felt uncomfortable even going shopping with all the Christmas folk... as i get older it seems more difficult. as a teen i loved crowds.....
Cigarick
Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:47:00 AM
That's the thing, it can sneak up on you so slowly, you don't even remember that you're not supposed to feel that way. I bumped into my ex at a BBQ a while ago, and she was a wreck. A few of us stayed late to talk, and she completely broke down. I suggested that she look into meds, they can change your life, and her reaction was, "I'M NOT CRAZY!" Classic.
cigarbidwidow
Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:30:00 AM
GDC, that is what I was trying to express as well. It isn't rational how they are feeling but to them, that is the only way it is. We all just need to be there for them so they don't get to that point.

Cigarick. That was the way my ex was. He never thought anything was wrong---he wasn't crazy. And there was no way he would even think about meds. His new wife told me a couple weeks ago that she is ready to leave him. She said she can't take the mood swings. She asked if I could give her any hope. I said I lived with it for 16 years---there is no hope unless he agrees that there is something wrong. And I don't think he will ever do that. It is a shame because he can be very sweet, but within seconds he can turn into a monster. Problem is, you never knew what would set him off. Sometimes I don't think anything did. It just happened. It was hard enough living like that for myself but when he started being nasty to the kids and name calling and putting them down, that was the final straw.

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Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:26:00 AM
BLAM! thud
tarheel4lyf
Tuesday, December 27, 2005 5:50:00 AM
I have been dealing with depression since mid-childhood. Nobody ever paid any attention to the warning signs, including myself. I had my first episode requiring medical attention in late 1992. After that, things were better until 1998. In 1998, I had my worst "episode" in which I actually broke down. I cried for weeks. When I wasn't crying, I was sleeping, and vice versa. It was then that I was placed on zoloft, along with a couple different anti-psychotic meds. The feelings went away, and I stopped all medications. The next episode (bigger than the previous) was in 2001. I ended up back in the doctor's office, and was put back on zoloft and a couple new meds (I can't remember which). My latest episode (which, I think may be a continuation of the 2001 episode) hit me the hardest of all. I wound up spending 2 nights in ICU, then was transferred to the inpatient psychiatric ward for observation. I was in the hospital for a little over a week. Since then, I have been doing ok, I reckon. I wake up every morning wondering how I will feel for the day. Over all of this time, I have gotten more and more uncomfortable around people. This may be attributed to the social "scarlet letter" that is placed on mentally ill patients. I am to the point now where I never leave the house unless I have to. My home is my sanctuary. I take 3 different medications every morning, and if I go even one day without them, I start to spiral further downward, rapidly. I also have panic attacks if I am around too many people for very long. The only reason I make it from day to day is with the help of a very loving and supportive family. I would not be here if it weren't for my wife and 2 daughters. They are why I continue to get up each day.
LadyHay
Tuesday, December 27, 2005 6:15:00 AM
tarheel4lyf. I don't want to get too personal but you seem pretty open about your experiences. What were some of the warning signs? Maybe if you can help some of us understand a little better, we can help others around us.

Is there any advice you have for trying to let someone else know that there are medicines that can help? Is there any advice your wife can give? Some insight?

I am very glad that you have such a loving family. Keep them as your strength. It can be rough but it is worth it.

tarheel4lyf
Tuesday, December 27, 2005 7:52:00 AM
I am at work right now, and I can't think off the top of my head what exactly to look for. Shoot me an email, and I will fill you in as far as what I know and have experienced.

tarheel4lyf at yahoo dot com

terry stewart
Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:11:00 PM
working as a paramedic the last 3 shifts Ive had 5 overdose calls this time of the year is the worst for those kind of calls