andytv
Saturday, January 7, 2006 8:37:00 AM
never saw the line NIN "Hurt"....when J Cash did his version, at first I was thinking "Great......his scraping the bottom of the barrel here...ripping off dark rock".

After hearing it a few times I like Cash's better.....it invokes such pity and longing for that which is gone forever.

Now, when I hear the song in my head, J Cash is singing it.

jetblasted
Saturday, January 7, 2006 8:37:00 AM
actually, Heather . . . I picked up on the Nudge-Nudge bit ...
mraven13
Saturday, January 7, 2006 8:39:00 AM
I wish I had an mpeg of the live "Hurt" It's intense. There is a giant screen behind Trent Reznor with these images...sad and beautiful contrasted back and forth.

And the way he sings it, blows away the studio version.

It had rotation on MTV back when MTV played videos.

jetblasted
Saturday, January 7, 2006 8:42:00 AM
I work with a guy who used to have a band in H.S. with Trent's older brother ... Scott told me that the motivation for joining his band, was that Trent's Dad owned a music store, so they got deals ... He said Trent used to hang out and bug the older boys watching them rehearse and such . . .

Now Look At Him ... Another Whacked - Out Rock Star ...

mraven13
Saturday, January 7, 2006 8:44:00 AM
Jetblasted, what exactly qualifies him as whacked out? He doesn't drink anymore. Doesn't do any drugs. Is very successful. I'm not trying to put the guy on a pedestal...but why call him a whacked-out rockstar?

jetblasted
Saturday, January 7, 2006 8:44:00 AM
issues ...
jetblasted
Saturday, January 7, 2006 8:45:00 AM
Look, ... I think he is brilliant ... but the boy's got issues ...
mraven13
Saturday, January 7, 2006 8:48:00 AM
All the best through time had issues. Mozart, Chopin, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Bob Dylan, Johnny Cash.....I guess I like my artists "whacked out" 🙂
jetblasted
Saturday, January 7, 2006 8:52:00 AM
Yep ... he's in good company, alright . . .

I was mesmerized when Pretty Hate Machine came out in 87(?) ...

Absolute Incredible Lyrics ... plus he played all the instruments, too ?

mraven13
Saturday, January 7, 2006 8:53:00 AM
Yep, he played everything on it.

That is a classic album.

Oops, the term "album" is probably a passe term right now.

andytv
Saturday, January 7, 2006 8:57:00 AM
did you know that Mozart was killed because he revealed freemasonic secrets in his "Magic Flute" opera?
jetblasted
Saturday, January 7, 2006 9:01:00 AM
I thought it was a jealous contemporary ...
andytv
Saturday, January 7, 2006 9:04:00 AM
hard to say........rumours abound.

he DID however reveal secrets of the freemasonic rituals in the opera.......the punishment for which is....umm never mind.

jetblasted
Saturday, January 7, 2006 9:07:00 AM
I Did Not Know That ...

There was a story about finding his skull this week on the web, and I heard a bit about it on the news, but tuned it out ...

Amadaus was a great movie ...

Tuckersdad
Saturday, January 7, 2006 9:08:00 AM
After knowing and being with John in his strong healthy years it's very tough for me to watch "Hurt". To see John in such frail shape, after knowing him as a tall strong tough "man's man".

I was no longer in close contact with him then, but I know it had to be hard for him, to have people see him in that condition. He was spending more and more time in Jamaica. Recording when he could.

But with John, it was all about the music, he lived and breathed the music inside of him. When he lost June the first thing he did was go back to work. More than anything else, music was his drug. I haven't said much about John and June's relationship, it's pretty personal - but a tremendous love story, especially among show business people.

Near the end he had to rest most of the time, recording only as he was able, for short periods. Perhaps the strangest thing of all, is the fact that he and I shared the same physical problem. The doctors tell me the same thing that took him will get me. But that's ok, they say that good health is only the slowest way to die.

It's a lazy Saturday afternoon right now, and Jenny and I are listening to John's "When The Man Comes Around", a song I keep listening to over and over. It's on a CD gifted to me by a fine Cbid brother.

Thanks for all the nice things said about his music.

Tuck

jetblasted
Saturday, January 7, 2006 9:14:00 AM
He was an amazing man . . . God Rest His Soul ...

You are lucky to have known him in the regard that you did . . .

Tuckersdad
Saturday, January 7, 2006 9:44:00 AM
John did a lot he wasn't proud of. He was rude, crude, profane and the original rebel and outlaw. But in his late career he "came around", and was very close to his God before his passing. I feel very comfortable he is very much at peace. Tuck
adroomi
Saturday, January 7, 2006 7:48:00 PM
Tell us more about the pink chandalier hanging above their bed........
mraven13
Sunday, January 8, 2006 8:36:00 AM
Yes, actually I'm very curious about it too. I love the little things like that. I find them more interesting than the typical "Fan" info.
bigbike
Sunday, January 8, 2006 1:51:00 PM
I grew up listening to Johns music. I also have read much about him and just saw the movie "Walk the line" recently. My own preference was the more humorous tunes like "1 piece at a time" and "the guy in the rear" as well as "Jackson" the duet with June and of course Johns version(s) of the Carter family classic "ring of fire". For some odd reason I always thought John and June had married years earlier (like mid 60's) but according to the movie it was 68 or 69. I know it was so fitting that 2 people who loved each other so much would pass within months of each other. On my next motorcycling trip down to Tenn. I am gonna plan on spending a Saturday night in SW virginia and visiting the Carter family "compound" then spend some time in Bristol where the Carters first recorded. Then travel out to mid Tenn (mid and eastern Tenn is truly God's country and I hope to retire to Tenn in a few years) and visit the area where John and June called home.

Does anybody know if John and Junes gravesites are open to the public, some of us aspiring musicians would like to pay homage.