the most egregious abuses of medical research: human cloning in all its forms, creating or implanting embryos for experiments, creating human-animal hybrid.

blaa blaa blaa

where does this dumb ass who doesn't believe in global

warming come out in favor of or against medical research.

so far israel has been successful enough in it's research to find a partial way to restore limb function to people like christopher reeve.

so far israel scientists have found breakthroughs in controlling some types of cancer.

if bush were alive then, pasteur would have been slapped in jail for tinkering with microorganisms.

madame curie, would have been burnt at the stake for her experiments with black magic, that old black magic called radium. imagine seeing through flesh, why the entire idea is the work of the devil.

a schmucky leader gives schmucky ideas.

HockeyDad

repeal the tax cuts to his wealthy contributers? he may be doltish, but he knows who butters his bread.

jackconrad

i objeke to inclusiving Dan Quayle in dat liste.

Pissymaven said:

"show me one person that has ever looked and spoken with the same fundemental lack of intelligence.

imagine if we had the cuban missle crisis under the watch of this dolt. i shudder to think about it."

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Bush doesn’t fit that description. For one who does, look in the mirror.

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Hockydad

Raising taxes has the opposite results, when it comes to bringing in revenue. Right now, the amount of money taken in is higher than when taxes were higher.

That's a fact which was reported just last week. Kennedy cut taxes, it worked. Reagan cut taxes, it worked. Now GWB has cut taxes, it's working.

You've got it backwards pal. Check it out if you don’t believe me.

TrannyMk,

It is true the tax revenue came in about $100 Billion better than expected for the 2005 fiscal year. That resulted in only about $318 Billion put on the national credit card. For the current fiscal year 2006 the projection is another $337 Billion on the credit card and the recently released White House 2007 budget has $423 Billion on the credit card. Across the three years, that is a trillion dollars short.

Pal, where are we going to find another trillion dollars to cover the shortfall we're creating?

When you say cutting taxes is working, you have to define what exactly it is working at accomplishing.

On a related note:

Congress Is Asked to Raise Debt Limit

Associated Press

Friday, December 30, 2005;

Treasury Secretary John W. Snow said yesterday that the United States could be unable to pay its bills in early 2006 unless Congress raises the government's borrowing authority, which is now capped at $8.18 trillion.

Snow, in a letter to lawmakers, estimated that the government is expected to bump into the statutory debt limit around the middle of February.

At that time, unless the debt limit is raised or the Treasury Department takes authorized extraordinary actions, we will be unable to continue to finance government operations," Snow wrote.

Hockydad

We are at war. That's what hurts, and is running up the debt. But it's necessary to keep the war on terrorism over there, rather than on our soil. If not, you think we have a deficit now? You aint seen nothin' yet, should we ever have to fight on our own soil.

I'd rather be alive and in debt, rather than dead. How about you? And I still say cutting taxes is good. It’s got to be done with major spending cuts though to work.

When I say cuts. I mean real cuts. Not a cut in the amount that we increase in spending, but a true cut that amounts to less spending than the year before.

TrannyMk,

It is not the war cost, it is the entire government running in the red. As part of the 2007 proposed budget that puts $423 Billion on the credit card, President Bush only asked for $75 Billion for ongoing military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. (There's no money for Iran!) The war cost theory doesn't come close to adding up to the budget shortfall.

You aren't going to get spending cuts because approximately 65% of the Federal budget is mandated by law and often indexed to inflation. You would need a 30% cut in the non-mandated areas to balance the budget without new revenue. I don't think we'll get a 30% cut in the Defense Department budget so we'll have to look elsewhere for even more cuts.

We may just have to increase revenue. Somebody has to pay off the credit card.

On the bright side, President Bush has asked for a $2.57 Trillion Federal budget. The fiscally conservative Republican-controlled House of Representatives and Senate have to still pass all the appropriations bills and they could just sent the President a budget of $2.14 Trillion and we could balance the budget. The Republicans control all of congress so they have all the power to make it happen right now. ...Or they could whip out the American Express card!

Yep Hockeydad,

I agree, the Republicans have the catbird seat, for now. The Problem is, they have been spending our tax dollars like drunken sailors on shore leave, and will probably continue to do so. It is a shame, that all politicians spend too much on pet projects, without regards to the good of the american people. The Republicans promised, in their contract with america, to balence the budget. Looks like the current bunch in Congress have forgotten that. I hope they can recover from all the scandals and broken promises before the elections, but I fear they will not. I jumped parties to the libertarians, the true conservative party.

Democrats = Fiscal Liberals

Republicans = Fiscal Liberals

Libertarians = Fiscal Conservatives.

Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)

P.S. Libertarians, the party for those who listen to the voice of reason, instead of their emotions.

"P.S. Libertarians, the party for those who listen to the voice of reason, instead of their emotions."

Yeah, we all think our party is the best. You're no different, except for one thing. You won't ever win an election on a national level.

A vote for any Libertarian, is a wasted vote. Unless things change dramatically.

Tey,

Seems we agree that the partisan politics chess match is indeed a bane on this country.

But I firmly maintain my position regarding the degree by which each party will stoop.

We need look no further than the recent death of Mrs. Martin Luther King Jr. Her funeral became a disgusting partisan political mob.

And need we not remember the enormous applause from the left-minded audience when speakers like Al Gore incorrectly identify the NSA spying as criminal (if it is, then the last 5 presidents should be in jail).

Or we could reflect upon the State of the Union address when the Democrats cheered MUCH LOUDER when Bush mentioned the failed plan to "fix" social security, than they did when our troops were verbally honored.

When the "anti-bush" battle cry supercedes the common good for our country, then those who shout the loudest need to rethink their priorities.

"Biting off your nose to spite your face" is a good way to describe it.

Tailgater,

The Republican Party has control of the White House, the House of Representatives, the US Senate, and now has a conservative Supreme Court. You can't blame the Democrats for how or when they cheer or the liberal media which is always a favorite.

If the Republicans want to legalize domestic spying on anyone, just change the FISA law. You can have it done in a week. Spy on anyone you want for any reason.

If the Republicans want to fix Social Security, just change the law. Three weeks tops.

If you want to ban all abortion, just write the law. Two weeks tops.

Raise taxes, lower taxes, flat tax, Value added tax, whatever. One month tops.

Heck, I've even suggested getting rid of some of the peskier constitutional amendments. Now is the chance to "get er done."

You cannot blame the Democrats. They are completely neutered and all they can do is sit in the back row and heckle. The Republicans have had free range to pass any law they want for a couple of years now. Fortunately, their own greed, corruption, and in-fighting have prevented them from doing any real harm, or good.

...And we're still $423 Billion short for the 2007 budget year. Charge!

All the bills introduced to stop/penalize companies that defraud the US while doing business in Iraq have been defeated along pary lines. X

Name one bill.

I can't,they've been defeated. X

Hi. I like coffee, cigars and pie.

Oh yeah - turn on that threadjack thingie.

Hockey,

First of all, the fact that the Republicans own the majority is because people VOTED them into their positions. You make it sound like they simply forced their way in.

Secondly, the ideas you speak of need careful consideration. The fact that the republicans have NOT pushed through far right concepts is proof positive that they don't simply toe the party line.

Unlike the democrats, who seem to band together as if they were a dying breed (one could only dream).

I live in Massachusetts. It's no secret who runs things in this state. Yet, most conservatives (i.e. republicans) that I know have many issues with the current administration and are not afraid to say so.

Converely, most liberals (i.e. democrats) that I know tend to simply hate everything from the right, and blindly embrace the left wing viewpoints.

I know there are exceptions to everything, but in a nutshell, I think this assessment is fairly accurate.

And I haven't "blamed" the democrats for anything other than whining about things without offering anything valid to consider.

Thank you for your input. And for the record, I don't include you in that group of mindless libs. I'm simply making a point.