plabonte
Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:05:00 AM
I've seen posts on what various terms stand for (i.e. ISOM). However are there any posts on how to pronounce various cigar lingo? I was at a cigar lounge in Denver and found that as a relative newbie I didn't pronounce things correctly.

For instance: robusto I thought was Row-bus-toe. But the guy pronounced it Row-boose-tow. And Padron I thought was Pa-dron (last part rhymes with Ron) but he pronounced it Pa-droon (rhymes with cartoon).

Is there somewhere I can go to brush up on my lingo so I don't look like a fool? (Anyone see Showgirls where the main character mispronounces Versace? Thats how I felt.)

Mr.Mean
Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:08:00 AM
Paul, the robusto part he got right, I don't know about the padroooon. I thought it was Padron as in prone.
sketcha
Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:12:00 AM
I'm with Mean on Padron. Their Roboosto is correct Espanol.
divnmyk
Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:13:00 AM
tomato, tomato

potato, potato

"Just use your best judgement. You know we trust you."

sketcha
Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:22:00 AM
I think it a bit rude for them to correct you on robusto. Padron I can see. I don't say "cinco" vegas either. Screw 'em. This is America Jack.
Spiny Norman
Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:36:00 AM
Padron

Pah-droan (roll the "R".)

tonester666
Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:51:00 AM
some very basic Spanish

o - pronounced as a long o

i - pronounced as a long e

e - pronounced as eh

a - pronounced as ah

y - pronounced as long e

u - pronounced as long u

hence Pah drone

row boos tow

plabonte
Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:44:00 AM
Sketcha, he didn't correct me. I never actually said the words. He said them first and I just followed suit.

sketcha
Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:58:00 AM
That's good.
cayman2b
Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:20:00 PM
Plabonte... man you got me!!!

how in the heck can you pronounce "toe" and "tow"

differently??? I've been trying for hours!!

Fatshotbud
Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:24:00 PM
Bein' from Texas, them boys are dang fortunut they didn't hear me pronounce that stuff, shoot I talk Merican, Bubba.
choner
Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:36:00 PM
What about CAO? Do you pronounce it like "cow" or do you say the individual letters C-A-O?

choner

Spiny Norman
Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:25:00 PM
C-A-O is correct. (Asking for a cow in a cigar store will only get you laughed at.)
Slimboli
Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:31:00 PM
C.A.O. is the founders initials ... and should be said as individual letters ... criminy!

Like others have already said ... the rest is just basic Spanish ...

plabonte
Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:44:00 PM
lol at cayman.

Not toe vs. tow that is the problem its the bus vs. the boose. Thats is boose like moose not boose like booze.

Skatty2hotty
Thursday, June 19, 2003 2:49:00 PM
Here's one that's plagued me for a while...

Xikar. it it X-ikar or Zshikar or anything else?

jgjam
Thursday, June 19, 2003 2:56:00 PM
I have a link to a site where you can listen to several cigar brands spoken out loud. Since it also links to several other sites, including Cbid competitors, I can't post the link here. E-mail me if you would like the link.

jmiller2225

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cox.net

John

Slimboli
Thursday, June 19, 2003 8:37:00 PM
Skatty2hotty --- it's pronounced 'zy-car' ... like xylophone.

XIKAR: How to Pronounce it ... and What it Means...

Kansas City Company Says Unusual Name Translates to Success

Kansas City, MO - May 3rd, 2003 - Curious? Confused? Maybe a little of both? Company officials now want to set the record straight on what XIKAR means and how it became the recognized brand name for this Kansas City based manufacturer of precision cigar cutters and folding knives.

Xikar, pronounced Zy-car with the heavier accent on the first syllable, is actually a word of great historical significance, according to company founder and president, Kurt Van Keppel.

The original spelling was SIKAR, a Mayan Indian word for "cheroot" which they regularly smoked. When the Spaniards discovered the Mayan culture, they also discovered the cheroot and began smoking this "cigar" for the first time, returning to their own country with it.

Through the years, the spelling changed and became what we commonly refer to as the cigar.

"We changed the spelling a bit and developed XIKAR as both our company name and our product brand," said Scott Almsberger, company vice president and chief product designer.

But with that name came every possible mispronunciation imaginable, Almsberger added. "You name it, we've heard it."

As a long-time marketer, however, Van Keppel knows the value in a company name. And in XIKAR's case, that value is high in terms of customer recognition, brand awareness and consumer loyalty.

"You don't forget XIKAR," Van Keppel states. "We are setting the standard for precision cutlery design."

"We've had consultants advise us to change our name because they say it's too difficult, and therefore has limited value," Van Keppel said. "I told them it's unique and recognized, and the value can be seen on the bottom line."

After seven years in business, that translates to success no matter how you say it.

usahog
Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:01:00 PM
like mean has said Before... skip the jibberish and just smoke the FUGGIN Thing!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!

I know Mean, I added a few words from your feelings about reviews LMAO!!!!!!

but hey its just me!!!!!

Laterzzzz

Hog

Skatty2hotty
Friday, June 20, 2003 9:06:00 AM
Wow Slim, that's some great info! Thanks! I spent about an hour searching but found mostly retail sites. You never cease to amaze me with your internet search ablilities.