Would you puzzies relax already! Pelosi said she would get us out of Iraq.....oh, wait.

DWD - The problems would be there no matter who was in the presidency the last 4 years. This has nothing to do with Bush. It has to do with the sub-prime mortgage lending and and the credit default swaps. No matter who was in office from 2000 - 2008, it would be the same right now. Period.

As for the current economy, we need to let companies fail that are going to fail. What good does it do buy a failing company like GM? It transfers the problem from the owners and shareholders to ALL of us. Now, the problem still exists, but it now affects more people. I agree that it would suck for people to lose their jobs if GM went under, but that is what capitalism is! Same with banks and same with everything else. If you dont run your business correctly, you fail. Someone else gets a shot.

Goverment control isn't the answer. The government cant even balance their budget, let alone run a business (look at the post office, medicare, social security, etc). Everything they touch loses.

DWD, eventually, there wont be any more "rich" people to tax to pay for everything. It is already happening.

TJ you are just keeping up the argument here so you have an excuse to see Pelosi's picture over and over!

Drywalldog,

Do you think that if Obama were elected 4 years earlier that we'd honestly be in less of a pickle right now?

If so, please elaborate.

#63 no, I am just passionate about capitalism. I tend to stay out of political debates, but this is bugging me.

Fix the system...fix the system...Social Security...BROKE...Medicare...BROKE...Medicaid...B ROKE...USPS...BROKE...Amtrak...BROKE...Cash for Clunkers...They had to refund it and there's dealers with millions on the table that they paid for inventory that's not on their lot and they can't purchase more without their check...

Let's face it, our government cannot successfully run a damn thing.

We've given them ample time to right the wrongs with a system they developed. It needs to go to the scrap yard.

They're spending like we still make things here. We don't. GM...that car manufacturer that we "bailed out"? They're investing 293 MILLION to build state of the art factories IN China!!!!! I'm sooooooo glad we're giving the Chinese the know-how and the jobs to become sooo successful with our demise.

We've been sold out. Face it.

Our dollar is being debased at levels we've never seen. The Fed issues bonds that the Fed buys because nobody wants to hold the worthless paper and prints more money into the system. This repeats every 3 months! WAKE THE FU(% UP PEOPLE. You still want to cling to your D's and R's...they're shuffling the deck chairs...they're lining their pockets. They're sealing the doors. Do you have your life raft? Do you have your parachute?

Uh oh...someone's going to get all wet.

Hard to feel sorry for everyone stuck below without a window. They're still listening to the music thinking everything is all right.

The unsinkable...IS sinkable.

Nero is fiddling while Rome is burning. You're not watching what the other hand is doing on the 3 card monte table!

Wow, what I meant was if things wern't in panic mode when Obama came in office, he wouldn't have even been able to do any of this, nor do I think he would have tried. Maybe I'm silly. Do I think Obama would have been better than Bush in his last term, maybe, don't think he would have denied that things are getting worse, or that we maybe were heading into a recession.By the way, what did President Bush do to save the situation, before the almost complete collapse of or financial system.

We have had a Democratic president for the last 8 months. We've had a Democratic majority in Congress for 2 years and 8 months. What the hell is the excuse now? The big mean minority still running the show? Pushing around your weak-kneed, lame-brained majority "leaders"?

Shut the hell up and get all your socialistic BS rammed through. Then pack up, because you're all going home in 2010.

Snow wolf not likely I'm going to shut up, I mostly answer the crap you guys post.

DWD - not looking to post crap. Just my beliefs. Would have Obama done better in 04-08? I dont really think so. He doesn't seem to have much of a clue, really. That isn't a slam. It's just my opinion from what I have seen and heard. He has even admitted several times that he was surprised by things. I dont think that is a normal statement from a president.

I guess aside from the socialism aspect, my biggest pet peeve is him spouting the whole hope and change things and not doing anything that he really said. He hasn't pulled the troops out. He hasn't stopped the douchebags from joining his cabinet. He is doing the same thing every other president has done. The problem is that he said he wouldn't and now he totally goes against his whole "change" attitude.

Obama doesn't have a clue. I dont doubt that he is a puppet for the those who wish to push their agendas. Hopefully we will be able to pull out of this when he is gone. Right now, it doesn't look good. If heathcare goes through, we are fucked. Seriously.

TJ- the crap thing wasn't aimed at you, just the posts like this one that are launched every day at the left. To me we haven't been looking far enough forward in this country, like infastructure, and a whole host of other ways. We need to get the poorest people off support programs, and back to work making money that they can actually afford to pay their bills with. Walmart started this deal where it is alright to pay someone 8.00 per hour with no benefits, and it has moved everywhere else now. And it's all in the name of profits for the stock holders. Most here have no problem with it unless it starts to affect them. If the people think they have a chance again, this will turn around. If not the richest in this country won't be able to buy enough goods and services to keep this economy afloat, so they won't have to worry about paying taxes. So far I don't believe anyone here is paying any more in taxes, with the exception of the schip tax, which affects all imcome levels.

Looks like the Dykes on Bikes Parade during Pride in Atlanta . . .