0patience
22 years ago
This is an engine that a service station installed the wrong oil filter. After bouncing to 3 different shops, it ended up with me. Now, it is in pieces, waiting for the insurance appraiser.
You probably aren't interested, but I was bored. LOL!
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JustDanD
22 years ago
I like how you slipped the cigar into the picture.

I can't take pictures of my work to show how people screw up. "How not to create your database!"

I was going to be a mechanic once. Went through 1 1/2 years of Auto/Diesel school. Then a mechanic friend of mine told me that I didn't belong. I jumped the counter to parts, then to computers, now to databases. Sometimes, other people help you see things about yourself you didn't know.

OK, so I was bored today too. Couldn't go to the Indy Herf.

Dan (JustDanD)
godfather1453406
22 years ago
I am not for sure but is this an inline 6? Is it a 4.0?
0patience
22 years ago
Good eye Godfather.
Yep. 4.0 Jeep engine.

I couldn't find any other place to put my cigar while I took the picture. I have a small shop at home and with 6 engines apart, it is tough to find places to put everything. I have a Detroit engine that takes up quite a bit of the shop by itself.
ducati996
22 years ago
I made the that intake manifold. I worked in an aluminium foundry in Milwaukee back in 1990. We supplied intakes (1200 a day) to the Chrysler engine plant in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
usahog
22 years ago
Looks like a good weekend Project.. or even a couple weekends... at least its not torn apart in your living room and parts stacked on your kitchen table!!!!

ahhh the Memories!!!

Hog
godfather1453406
22 years ago
Those 4.0 are not too hard. I could do it in a day. I made the mistake of putting an engine together before and not using a torque wrench. At the end it turns out that piston bolts were too tight and the motor wouldn;t turn over.
0patience
22 years ago
Ha ha, the 4.0 is cake.
But there is a difference between a rebuild and overhaul. Including good torque wrenches, you need plastiguage for the correct thickness, micrometers, a press and jig for the wrist pins, a ridge reamer, a good quality hone and a cam bearing installing tool.
One of the biggest reasons that rod bearings are too tight is because the bearings are not plastiguaged and checked for thickness. You can take a set of bearings and measure them and there can be a .001" difference between them. To do a correct bearing install, you may go thru 2 sets of bearings to get the correct clearances. On performance engines, I have gone thru as many as 6 sets of bearings to make it correct.
Sounds extreme, but you do what you gotta do.
This engine has to be completely stripped down. The pistons have to come off the rods, the head has to come compeletely apart and valves done.
While a rebuild can be done easily in a day, a major overhaul can take alot more time. A performance engine can take twice as long, as there are things involved, such as "relieving" the block, fitting the rings, checking deck heighth and piston fit. All these things must be meticulously fit and checked, including dialing in the cam.
But when it all comes together and the performance engines breathes to life, it is well worth the extra effort to detail. 🙂
There are things that require special tools and work.
Even though I have experience rebuilding transmissions, they are better left to the guys with the tools to do the job correctly. 😉

Wow, sorry, got lost in that post. LOL!
Tobasco
22 years ago

0patience, I'm the tranny man here in these forums, hehe! I guess I'll have to post a pic of an automatic transmission torn apart.

Boy, I had a total pump & converter melt down on a 4L60E in a 2000 Chevy PU. That would have been a great pic. I'll wait for another good one. You would be amazed at what happens to some units.

I've rebuilt many basic motors myself, not lately though. My last was a 400 sm block for a 78 Chevy Silverado 4X4 Custom PU. The newer motors I leave to experts like you... :>)

Mag

usahog
22 years ago
brings me up to a situation I once had Mag.

a local transmission shop here back in 1995 I took our Olds Cutless Supreme in for a filter change.. it was kinda boggy on the shifting and sluggish and seemed like it was slipping sometimes 118,000 miles and I felt it was time... I take it in and while I'm waiting the guy calls me back to the back area where the car was way up in the air... he shows me the pan where they had removed it to get to the filter... in the pan was all these metal shavings some of them curled like right off the milling machine he says mr. your in for some trouble here it looks as though your transmission has been grinding something abit... do you want us to overhaul it? I looked over underneath the car where the drain bucket was I rolled my sleve up and stuck my arm down into the bucket and felt to the bottom swishing around and couldn't find any filings or nothing.. I looked back up at the two of them they both looked suprised and puzzled.. I said Na like what I brought it in here for just a flush and fill with a new filter will work.. I watched them finish up my car and he tell's me when I paid him up for the service... you'll be lucky to get another 5000 miles on that transmission.. I was one lucky SOB cuz it ran up until 189,000 miles and then the wrecked it... someone slammed 4 cars at the stop lights... I came up picked her up.. let her drive y car home and I drove that PAS on home and later the Insurance Totaled it out... needless to say even after the rear end job the transmission held together LMAO!!!
even lasted longer then that Tranny Shop!!!

Hog
0patience
22 years ago
Mag,
I leave the tranny stuff to experts like you.
I may do some mods to slip N slides and TH350 & 400s, but have a shop do the overhauls on them.
I don't do any internals.
Most the trans I see are 4x4s and classic performance.
The only automatic I do any internals on are Allisons.
But then my main gig is Heavy trucks and heavy equipment.
ducati996
22 years ago
I once rebuilt a '68 Pontiac 350 HO for my '68 Firebird. Also put a shift kit in the TH 350. But that was 18 years ago. Now I even take it to the shop for oil changes...lol...someone must pay for Mags expensive cigar habit...lol.
Tobasco
22 years ago

Hog, they were definatly trying to rip you off. Metal in the bottom of your pan NEVER is curled shavings. They must have a brake lathe around, that they get the metal from, to do this.

No wonder they are out of business...

Mag
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