What does that mean to you?

Esteban Carrera......mmmmmmmmmmmm

Super-Premium is usually pretty subjective.

Premium means anything that is hand-rolled. Whether it's short-filler, long-filler, mixed-filler, sandwich...if it's rolled by hand, it's a premium cigar. Many will argue with this, but it's the truth.

Super-Premium denotes a step above premium cigars, and is usually based on price. Perdomo Lot 23 might be a premium cigar, while Perdomo ESV '91 is super-premium. However, others might consider Perdomo ESV '91 to be a premium, while the Edicion de Silvio is a super-premium. This is where it gets hazy.

Thankfully, there are plenty of 'premiums' out there that burn and perform better than 'super-premiums,' which is very nice to our wallets.

^ I think the ESV '91 and Edicion de Silvio smokes are crap.... yeah, that's it. Crap. Nobody should bid on them. In fact, send them all me and I'll take care of them! I'll take the bullet for all of you!

Mmmmmm I love those smokes!!!!!!!!!!!

"Super Premium "

"What does that mean to you? "

100+ octane and about $12 bucks a gallon.

if Nestor Reserve is 93 rated then it is certainly a Super Premium

Ask Roxie, that is all he ' smokes ' !!!!!

^ I hope someday you both meet in a dark ally and decide its easier to smoke one together than beat the crap out of each other

^That's called 'Trick' gas out in the west. Maybe east too for all I know.

#9 for #5

RE #9

I know, but if I had just written "Trick" then I doubt anyone other than a a few would have gotten the joke (and then I even wonder about that).

I could have also said "Cam2" to make it a bit more obvious.

But the REAL SUPER premium is finding 92 or 93 at $3/gallon.

"However, others might consider Perdomo ESV '91 to be a premium, while the Edicion de Silvio is a super-premium."

Sven, its not hazy at all. That's exactly how I call them.

#5 Dammit. Beat me to it.

Hey! Isn't it my turn to use the brain today?

Remember Sunoco 102, circa 1970?

Vrooooooom

I'd call the famous smokes as super premium, things like PAMs and silvio and opus. To me I think calling everything hand rolled premium is funny. I think premuim to me is the good sticks the old venerables of consistency like H uppman, punch, and such like that. The average sticks that people here call "yard gars" or "crap" those are just hamde made cigars. Still with this industry everything is a true habana corojo, or "have finally achieved that cuban flavor" and is "rare" and "super premium".

"Premium means anything that is hand-rolled. Whether it's short-filler, long-filler, mixed-filler, sandwich...if it's rolled by hand, it's a premium cigar. Many will argue with this, but it's the truth."

Definitly have to argue with this. If it is not hand rolled, I call it Crap. I would not count any of the "Yard Gards" a Premium. To me you have your yard gards, your everyday cigar, followed by the Premium Cigar and the Super Premium. I would condsider PAM 64's and Ashton VSG's as Premiums and Opus X and God of Fire's as Super Premium.

I agree with va. There are a lot of hand rolled cigars I would not consider premium. However. The super premium label is overused. Particularly by the folks trying to sell them.

Legend

I like Super Premium cigars.......

Charlie

Main Entry: 1pre·mi·um

Pronunciation: \?pr?-m?-?m\

Function: noun

Etymology: Latin praemium booty, profit, reward, from prae- + emere to take, buy — more at redeem

Date: 1601

1 a: a reward or recompense for a particular act b: a sum over and above a regular price paid chiefly as an inducement or incentive c: a sum in advance of or in addition to the nominal value of something 😛 something given free or at a reduced price with the purchase of a product or service

2: the consideration paid for a contract of insurance

3: a high value or a value in excess of that normally or usually expected.

Since price mostly defines "premium", this would explain why some super premiums suck for some and not for others and vice versa. I think the CAO Boss is a super premium cigar but yet I don't care for the Padron Anni line which would also be a super premium in my book.

^ What was it about the PAM's Line that you didn't Like? Did you smoke both the 26's and 64's? I know everyone has different taste, just Curious why it didn't float your boat. I have past out many a PAM 64 Torpedo, and never heard anyone say they ddn't like it.