IT"S A MATTER OF OPINION ....

Amen!

I would prefer the latter.

String 'em up!

Oh the good old days.

Lincoln had a few things to say about war:

"Force is all-conquering, but its victories are short-lived."

"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter, and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."

"Allow the president to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such a purpose—and you allow him to make war at pleasure."

^ #6

Pac, why do you hate America?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter, and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."

Or: "The countless citizens of foreign descent that we so graciously allow into this country with open arms will multiply by the 10s of millions and degrade our magnificent nation not unlike a cancerous growth".

Oh how times have changed... not just Obama either, there was that guy that was captured in Afghan right after we got there... he was fighting with the Taliban... A WHITE AMERICAN fighting for terrorists... what'd he get for punishment? A few years lock up.. maybe...

- J

#9 Proof positive that many people who bitch about stuff here research their grievances like no one else can.

John Walker Lindh, the "American Taliban" was sentenced to 20 years in prison.

#10

What do you want to bet he's out in six or seven, or, if Obama get's "elected", he gets amnesty?

While I think Obama giving amnesty is a little far-fetched, I think the nail was hit on its head when it was stated that we are destroying ourselves from within.

We should all be ashamed for letting it happen.

If you put the words into action, the dumbocrats would loose there majority in both houses of Congress.

#11 Well...if you're just pulling that notion and the numbers out of your ass, I'd say chances are rather low. No one gets elected or re-elected on "let's be nice to terrorists" platforms, and no one wants to be remembered for that. If you have some concrete information on which you base the notion, then I'd like to hear it.

Who is Obama's new Director of Islamic Relations? He will no doubt look into it.

Apparently it's George Clooney.

HANG 'EM!!!!

#10 Ok so I was off by 17 years... being sentenced and serving the sentence are two different things... either way I was referring to "the day in which people where punished to death" because of their crimes against the home country...

We have become a nation of tolerance and lost the values we once stood for... freedom has it's price I suppose.

- J

#18 So, what did he do? I don't mean just some generalized rant, but really, what did he do?

Never mind, did a little searching.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/people/shows/walker/profile.html 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Walker_Lindh 

I'd put more stock in the CNN info., whereas the Wikipedia write-up contains some rumors, counter-rumors, etc. It's a little more broad and whie containing citations, doesn't appear to be subjected to academic scrutiny. Interestingly, I got the impression from the CNN article that the deal the U.S. cut was likely due, in part, to keep a lid on covert ops for the U.S., that trial might divulge too many state secrets. The Wikipedia article suggests as much.

Federal prisons aren't all the country clubs some folks make them out to be. Sure, there are some, but they are generally used for the white collar, less serious offenses, and for less dangerous offenders. The Unabomber, for example, is being held in a Supermax prison, tightly restricted and he'll very likely die there. Not suggesting anyone should feel sorry for these folks, but summer camp, it ain't. Federal sentences follow fairly rigid guidelines, and good time is restricted more than some folks might expect, too. This isn't LA county lockup, where a 40 day jail sentence for some celbutant gets them out the same afternoon they enter.

Federal probation is serious stuff, too. I've known some federal probation officers, and while they are nice people, you do not want to screw with them if you are on their probatin caseload. They take their jobs seriously, and violations can get you sent right back to the can.

This guy's sentence and all that ensues is hardly a slap on the wrist. I've been to county jails, and they are no picnic. Prisons, where people are serving longer sentences and usually for serious crimes, have an entirely different feel to them. Seek out a couple tours. I'm used to going in county jails to talk with clients and do other related work, and prisons still give me the willies.

Wasn't it Lincoln who had a policy of selling goods to the south during the war for "humanitarian reasons"? I know that it pissed Grant off. I guess that treason only applies to congress and not the president?