Double D
Thursday, March 18, 2004 6:33:00 PM
I've so far had 2 of my 5 Vegas torpedoes, and in both cases, the wrappers have cracked terribly shortly after lighting, rendering both cigars virtually unsmokeable.

It's as if the cigars are exploding; the ultra-thin tobacco wrapper rips and tears from the expanding fillers.

I have not had the same problem with other brands of cigars, at least not to this degree, and all are stored in the same humidor
(RH 64-67).

Is this a problem with the cigar, the storage humidity levels, or something else? I've leave celo on, FWIW.

Comments and suggestions are appreciated on this issue.

DD
jimmy@ctconnect.com
Thursday, March 18, 2004 7:10:00 PM
- you're possibly not letting them rest long enough after receiving them ...

IMHO - the "center" of your cigar is still "overly moist" as it hasn't been out of the production lines very long and possibly - is still developing it's own unique characteristics ... meanwhile - with shipping and being taken out of it's "intended" environment ... the wrapper dries slightly ....

- when the "heat" from the cigar hits the "moist" center - it causes "swelling" which will "split" the wrapper ....

... maybe let them rest for a week before smoking ...

--- maybe you're "hot-boxing" them and smoking them too quickly ... you can intentionally (on some sticks) smoke them WAY too quickly which can (IMHO) cause them to "split" - if you smoke them just a little slower ... the swelling is reduced and there's less chance of rupturing the hymen ... errr ... ummm wrapper I mean ....
jimmy@ctconnect.com
Thursday, March 18, 2004 7:13:00 PM
p.s. you may want to think about switching over to a more refined cigar also ... Lone Wolf?

(just hacking ... LOL) - couldn't resist this post ...
usahog
Thursday, March 18, 2004 8:06:00 PM
your humidity for these Cigars are to low...

only Cubans have I seen servive in humidity levels at the rate you state... what are the temps??? same or lower???

I try and keep my cubans at 65-67% humidity and always keep the temp between 67-70 degree's....

sounds to me you've had these gars awhile and they've become to dry for their climate...

you can cure this but do it slowly... to much at one time will cause disaster!!!!! and then you also need to do the rotate method so they do not canue (sp) on smoking later...

Hog
usahog
Thursday, March 18, 2004 8:12:00 PM
Maduro, rosado, camaroon wrappers are all a little tougher.. as are the ISOM wrappers for some reason???

Monica care to Answer?? LOL


I like the 5 Vegas allot.. yard gar and cannot pass the prices.. have always been a go to gar for the past 5 yrs now.... they love to split and have always been the most tempermental.... along with SLR's!!!!

Hog
rayder1
Thursday, March 18, 2004 8:59:00 PM
What hog said. Same here. I have had a number of 5Vegas' pass through my humidors. Not sure why it is, but these have the most tempermental wrappers.

I've had my share of splits. Mostly smokable, but theres been a couple I had to toss.

I still like 'em and will still buy 'em.
Double D
Friday, March 19, 2004 4:19:00 AM
Thanks fellas.

I'll try to increase the RH, and see what happens.

The wrappers on these 5 Vegas' are so thin and delecate, I'm surprised more people haven't had this problem.

DD
rjdc
Friday, March 19, 2004 4:31:00 AM
DoubleD, I agree with Jimmy, too moist, (new,fresh). Let them mellow out a little. New sticks need at least 2 months to rest. The longer the better. With the thin wrapper of Vegas', if it got even a little too dry, while the centre was still moist you could get splitting.

Cigars are hygorscopic and will react consenquently to their environment.

What hog said on the price and other wrappers. Being still winter time, depending on where you are, light up before you go out into the cold dry air.

Ditto on Ray's comment. I had a 6 month old Vegas do the same thing yesterday on the last three inches. I slid the band down and loosened the wrapper. I just pulled it off and smoked away.

Good luck and fugedaboudit!