I just purchased a few of these from my local store today. I smoked one tonight and it had a different taste (bad, sourer taste) than all of the others that I've purchased from this store. This is the latest "batch" that this store has received. I really didn't think that these needed any ageing. Did I just get a bad one or are they rushing these out?

Did it make your hair stand on end?

Sorry, can't offer direct advice, other than yours is the first real negative comment I have heard, so give 'em another shot.

Sour generally means that a cigar of this quality is wet.

I would say the problem lies in buying a cigar and smoking it that night. My rule is every cigar I purchase spends at least 2 weeks in my 'dor before I smoke it and usually much longer, if I can stand to wait... I'm pretty sure there's no such thing as a bad PAM

Probably was too wet.

Or it could be a fake. PAMs are the most counterfeited domestic.

Later

Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)

If I go to a shop that keeps their humidor well maintained I will fire up the cigar immediately and have never had a problem.

E you have never purchased a PAM, VSG or AF and lit it on the way out?

That's what the otterbox is for (thanks Billy).

There is one shop around here that keeps their humidor dang near perfect, but still I only light up right after if it's an emergency (going out w/ friends, etc.) (most shops around here over humidify and I've had a few problems in the past) I usually keep a few cigars on hand and try to plan as much as possible. Not all of us can go around wasting money on cigars that may or may not smoke well like you Tony...(hahaha not for long...)

That last sentence is just cruel al'thor...

RasDas

Joe

I ALWAYs carry my otterbox but, someteimes I am hankering for an SG and don't have one or maybe a VSG. So I do stop and buy one. There has never been a problem. Sounds like Texas needs an overhaul.

Oxymoron: A seemingly blatant contradiction of terms. E.g. Bad Padron 1964.

Just my input

Fritz

I rarely, if ever, buy cigars locally without allowing them to stabilize for a couple of days or longer. Most tobacconists try to keep their humidors at 70/70 which in the winter is too hot for 70% induced humidity. You have to bear in mind that your tobacconist knows that some cigars will sell very slowly, and may spend months in his humidor. For safety's sake the cigars will be kept more moist than optimum for smoking. It can create a problem when the tobacconist has a lounge area. You buy a quality cigar to smoke on the premises, and it's tight and a bit sour, because it needs to dry down and stabilize.

There are 3 shops I frequent that I have never had a problem smoking immediately. There are several others that I always take the gars home for a while.

Can't beleive I am the only one who smokes immediately after purchasing.

You just got a bad one.

I know most of you are covering your eyes and wondering "How can you say that!?! Thats impossible, it was this, or that"

But ya know what it happens, it can and does happen.

Dont worry basstonedudester666...I do it all the time.

I also have been known to clip one and torch it as i leave the shop...funny though...they are mostly Padron...

RasDas

Joe

I've never had any problems with any of the 1964's that I've purchased (and smoked within a week or two) from this store. I agree that it could just be the "two-headed lama". I wasn't really knocking the 64's I was just interested if anyone else had experienced any similar issues with the 64's. I have four other torpedos that I purchased at the same time from the same box that I'll let set in my humidor for a week or two (at least till the Derby) and give them another try. I'll let you know if it is just an anomaly.

Never had a PAM (thanks ethan).

But bought one last weekend and waiting on it. Damn sure ain't trading this one away. And so help me Jesus if it is not up to par with the hype....

Bassdude,

I have lit PAMs and PANs before I even paid for them. 🙂

I get in such a rush when I find well maintained ones at the store that I start drooling.