Once Again, Courtesy of the United States of America . . .

Once, again . . .

this needs to be topped

Will-Do . . .

Thats one way to look at it.

But if someone did the same thing to us that we do to other countrys, I am willing to bet we wouldn't call it freedom.

Really? Iraq was suffering under an insane dictator that could not care less what his people thought. "Hitler Lite" Remember?

We came in and took him out and his ruling caste. We are staying long enough for them to get their country under control with some form of infastructure to govern THEMSELVES.

Hmmmmmm, when did a foreign country send troops and ships to help rid us of a tyrant? HHHmmmmmmmm. Can you say France? Granted, the analogy isn't exact, France didn't stay to keep the peace until we were up and running, but then the English still in Canada weren't exactly preparing to invade NY either.

One can debte the wisdom of how long and under what circumstances we are staying in Iraq. But there is NO QUESTION we have taken out one of the most homicidal, genocidal maniacs in power on the face of the earth. And for that, I am proud of America, and dare I say it, even George Bush.

DO I agree with all his policies, of course not. I don't even agree with most of them. But taking out Saddam Hussein was not a bad thing. If nothing else, ask the Kurds.

Java,

Please go re-read your grade school and middle school history books. Go do some research about oppressive states that were set aside with assistance from the US. Most recently - Ask the Kuwait citizens if our assistance against an invading army protected their freedom. Ask the remaining Iraqi Kurds whom Saddam killed by the thousands if our assistance (albiet very delayed) is freedom. Go talk to friends or family who have spent time in Iraq and ask if Iraqi citizens in general have more freedom now than before we got there. My family and friends say there is much more personal freedom in Iraq today than before we were there.

Taking complete credit for "freeing" the countries from the Axis during WWII is a bit of a stretch....Russia lost twenty two million people during that war.

^ More like 40+ million if you consider Stalin's full reign of terror- including the Ukranian genocide.

I'm indisposed at the moment but will an IOU do? I want to re-build, er, I mean "free" more countries.

Some of those nations had to go back to the well TWICE!

Git yer Freedom here! Guaranteed good! FREE-DOM! Git yer William Wallace Freedom!

Meh.

iraq?

too bad the native americans didn't make it to the party!

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"Taking complete credit for "freeing" the countries from the Axis during WWII is a bit of a stretch....Russia lost twenty two million people during that war."

And than went on to kill about 10 million of there own after the war. Not to criticize and thanks for their effort during WWII, but no other country in the history of mankind (by an extremely wide margin has freed more of mankind and spent more of their resources (people included) to do it.

Make no mistake about it, we don't do it for fun. We do it when our national interests are at stake. We need to take a very hard look at what are the important national interests, to what extent will we protect them, and who are allies are.

Spreading freedom and democracy is great - in our view. In most of the rest of the world they good give a chite. So let's be very careful about where we expend our time, energy, and lives of our young servicemen in the future. Just to say we freed a country is not, in and of itself, worth it. Especially when the idiots being freed (including the French) in general despise us for doing it.

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