when the government gives a few gazillions to wall street, do they call it a bailout, but if the government gives us a check, so we can ease our financial burden, they will call it a stimulus package.

I think stimulus implies we (citizens) have some money, but not enough to buy non-essential items... thus we can stimulate the economy.

With (business) bailouts, they "supposedly" don't have any money, or at least act like that's the case. If the company goes under, we can't buy stuff and many people lose jobs, both of which hurt the economy... that's a bailout.

OK, I know squat about economics, so that's my un-economically-educated take on the matter.

-JT

Because we're not billions of dollars in the hole due to bad business decisions.

I blame Obama and the bailout loving Democrats.

Amen to that!

I blame HockeyDad and Hugo Chavez. If you combine their names, they are an anagram for "Hacked Have Cozy Dough". Clearly a cryptic clue they are in cahoots and up to no good.

The worst is yet to come......

Because they ain't bailing most citizens out of a damn thing with the pittance they gave.

Give us all $50,000. THAT would stimulate some ****.

^The elections is over. Obama won. Grief counselors are standing by.

Personally I am looking forward to 4 years of Obama bashing.

It now looks like Obama was involved with another criminal fund-raiser besides Rezko. The Feds are investigating that Obama was involved in the Clinton Hsu fraud. The Democrat culture of corruption continues.

I feel better already.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

#10 To have any credibility, IMHO, you must

1. Have actual facts on which to base any complaints, and

2. Actually wait until he's in office, which really is implied in #1. However, you seemed to have started Obama bashing about 2006, so....

Actually I started Obama bashing in 2005 when he was paid off by Tony Rezko.

Having a hard time keeping track of the facts? Here are eight things to know:

1. They met in 1990. Obama was a student at Harvard Law School and got an unsolicited job offer from Rezko, then a low-income housing developer in Chicago. Obama turned it down.

2. Obama took a job in 1993 with a small Chicago law firm, Davis Miner Barnhill, that represents developers -- primarily not-for-profit groups -- building low-income housing with government funds.

3. One of the firm's not-for-profit clients -- the Woodlawn Preservation and Investment Corp., co-founded by Obama's then-boss Allison Davis -- was partners with Rezko's company in a 1995 deal to convert an abandoned nursing home at 61st and Drexel into low-income apartments. Altogether, Obama spent 32 hours on the project, according to the firm. Only five hours of that came after Rezko and WPIC became partners, the firm says. The rest of the future senator's time was helping WPIC strike the deal with Rezko. Rezko's company, Rezmar Corp., also partnered with the firm's clients in four later deals -- none of which involved Obama, according to the firm. In each deal, Rezmar "made the decisions for the joint venture," says William Miceli, an attorney with the firm.

4. In 1995, Obama began campaigning for a seat in the Illinois Senate. Among his earliest supporters: Rezko. Two Rezko companies donated a total of $2,000. Obama was elected in 1996 -- representing a district that included 11 of Rezko's 30 low-income housing projects.

5. Rezko's low-income housing empire began crumbling in 2001, when his company stopped making mortgage payments on the old nursing home that had been converted into apartments. The state foreclosed on the building -- which was in Obama's Illinois Senate district.

6. In 2003, Obama announced he was running for the U.S. Senate, and Rezko -- a member of his campaign finance committee -- held a lavish fund-raiser June 27, 2003, at his Wilmette mansion.

7. A few months after Obama became a U.S. senator, he and Rezko's wife, Rita, bought adjacent pieces of property from a doctor in Chicago's Kenwood neighborhood -- a deal that has dogged Obama the last two years. The doctor sold the mansion to Obama for $1.65 million -- $300,000 below the asking price. Rezko's wife paid full price -- $625,000 -- for the adjacent vacant lot. The deals closed in June 2005. Six months later, Obama paid Rezko's wife $104,500 for a strip of her land, so he could have a bigger yard. At the time, it had been widely reported that Tony Rezko was under federal investigation. Questioned later about the timing of the Rezko deal, Obama called it "boneheaded" because people might think the Rezkos had done him a favor.

8. Eight months later -- in October 2006 -- Rezko was indicted on charges he solicited kickbacks from companies seeking state pension business under his friend Gov. Blagojevich. Federal prosecutors maintain that $10,000 from the alleged kickback scheme was donated to Obama's run for the U.S. Senate. Obama has given the money to charity.

chicagotribune

Considering the issue now before us is how he will do as president, especially given the complete pile of **** Dubbya has left for him, I don't care about Obama's past at this point if it comes up short of killing someone to get into office. Really. I could give two **** about Rezko. I could give two **** about Chicago. I got halfway through that list and realized none of it has anything to do with how he will perform as president. With the economy circling the drain, two wars draining us, and the hundreds of problems facing the U.S. right now, I don't give a flying fark who contributed to what, or where Rezko is serving his time, or what Michelle Obama's favorite color is, or the time of day their kids brush their teeth, etc., all of which I consider to be equally relevant to what kind of job he will do.

If your house is on fire, and the firemen show up and you want to question the procurement process as to how they got the fire engine they drove to show up to put out that fire, that's entirely your prerogative. Me, I'm only interested at the point in putting out the damned fire.

Give to the rich and it's socialism, give to the poor and it's welfare.

? ask why...

I'd like my package to be stimulated.

#13

Far left wing nut moral relativism. Obama may be a crook, but we don't care because he is going to do a good job.

LOL!!!!

15. Author: pablo

because

13. Author: pacman357 Date: 12/31/2008 11:05 PM Reply

If your house is on fire, and the firemen show up and you want to question the procurement process as to how they got the fire engine they drove to show up to put out that fire, that's entirely your prerogative. Me, I'm only interested at the point in putting out the damned fire.

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This is a great point pac, and I mean that.

That's the way 90% of the people out there think.

I'm going to use the same situation to illustrate where there is fear and trepidation over what His Excellency Barack (Idi) Hussein (Amin) Obama will do.

His Excellency Barack (Idi) Hussein (Amin) Obama made it pretty public that he wants to "spread the wealth around", and being all for "trickle-up economics." That's like saying that your house is on fire, so to fight the fire, they're going to use 70% of the resources to make sure the fire doesn't spread to the surrounding neighborhood, and use what's left to actually stop your house from burning down. Your house eventually burns down in short order, but the slums around you are just fine.

Then you're sent a bill for the entire amount it took to battle the blaze...and they take 50% of the insurance money you get from the houe on top of that.

Bush's strategy, for the most part, is signing on to whatever the fire chief claims is the best course of action, even if that means the firemen dance around nekked for an hour before tackling the blaze.

19. Author: jpotts

"Bush's strategy, for the most part, is signing on to whatever the fire chief claims is the best course of action, even if that means the firemen dance around nekked for an hour before tackling the blaze."

you just said a wise thing. if i may correct one word please, "is" to "was."