I've had an especial #2, which looks like a #4 with an extra inch. It was a totally different profile, sort of like vanilla and almonds, where the #4 was spicy and rich like ginger snaps. Unfortunately the draw on the esp.#2 was way too tight (my own fault, I forgot to drybox it before the night I wanted it, and I knew it would be snug), so I couldn't get the full range from it. I've never had the torp #2.