pennjones
Saturday, January 17, 2009 7:27:00 PM
so i've known since pittsburgh beat sd that i want to take tomorrow 1/18 off for the afc championship game. so last wednesday i was at work (i work midnights at the hospital) and i told the charge nurse on that night (they're different almost every night) that i wanted to take a personal day on sunday. she said it was too soon, and to call closer to the weekend. so i called yesterday(friday) to let them know i was taking a personal day. the charge nurse (different than last time) said to call tomorrow and let them know. so i call tonight and apparently there was a note left that "no call offs or personal days will be accepted jan 17-feb 1..." related to a new computer system that is being started at the hospital that EVERYONE will have to use.

now as far as i know there is no way they can keep me from taking my ONE personal day i'm allowed per year tomorrow. there are no stipulations on personal days, other than you have to let them know more than 4 hours before the shift you are supposed to work, that way they can fill your spot. I think it's total bs and someone is going to be chewed out tomorrow.

any input is welcome.

edsbar60
Saturday, January 17, 2009 7:31:00 PM
*cough* *cough* "I'm sick and highly contagious..."

pennjones
Saturday, January 17, 2009 7:34:00 PM
no they know i'm not sick because i've been telling different charges that i want my personal day. and if i call in sick again i get written up (which means if i were to choose too, and it's looking more and more likely, i wouldn't be able to transfer to another floor for 2 months). the reason for that isn't becuase i called off too many times, but because another new "rule" went into effect about call offs
cigarman692900
Saturday, January 17, 2009 8:36:00 PM
#1

You work midnight to 8am ?

Why would you need to take an entire day for the game.

I worked midnites for almost 10 years and never really had to "take time off" for something during the day. Unless of course you are worried about someone "bangin in sick" and you're left stuck working a double.

Just get up for the game and take a nap before work.

jackconrad
Saturday, January 17, 2009 8:38:00 PM
When in the medical field your 1st priority is to the Patients, you knew this going in.

As for the supervisor they did a lousy job and someone should be notified. However patients should not be punished for this .

Be a responsible adult. It could make a difference in a life.

rfenst
Saturday, January 17, 2009 8:56:00 PM
^ Bull****. A other things, you don't sell your soul when becoming a nurse. No offense to OP, but we are not talking about refusing to perform life-saving, emergency surgery here.

What does your employee manual or union contract (if you have one) say about the number of days advance notice you must give?

Are they planning on giving you training on the new computer system during the very time you want off?

I hope you get your day off, but it is better to be employed than not...

jackconrad
Saturday, January 17, 2009 9:06:00 PM
^ THIS IS THE EPITOMY OF`IMMATURE SELFISHNESS
rfenst
Sunday, January 18, 2009 3:19:00 AM
^

A personal day off is interpreted by me to be used for any reason the employees wants, even though the employee is not ill, provided proper advance notice, if required, is given. Let me reiterate: ANY WAY THE EMPLOYEE WANTS, FOR WHATEVER REASON THE EMPLOYEE WANTS!

jackconrad
Sunday, January 18, 2009 4:26:00 AM
In the Medical field there are diferent rules that you know of when you get into it. Me , i work on commision and never get a paid day off, rarely do i make money in the winter months and get alot of time off. But that is my choice because i knew the way it is before i got into it. To generalize without knowing the nature of a contract is not a smart policy, these things are situaional and not Nationalized Policy.
pennjones
Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:18:00 AM
ok so i need to explain a little more. i work 7pm-730am. tha'ts what we call midnights. i don't have a union. i don't have a contract that i work under. the policy book states that for any call off or personal day the charge nurse needs to be notified 4 hours before the shift supposed to be worked starts.

i really don't want to hear "be a responsible adult" because i have been more than loyal to that place and have called off less than 1/2 of when i wanted to. this is one day i have asked off for in over a year for anything other than my wedding. and the patient's will not suffer if i'm not there. there are always more than enough nurses on the floor i work on and almost every night a nurse gets pulled to another floor because we are overstaffed. i understand that the patients are my main priority - when i'm at work, but one of the benefits of this job is that i can leave work at work. usually....

JadeRose
Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:24:00 AM
well...then take it off. As long as a person is willing to accept the consequences of their actions, who cares? If you take it off and get fired, will you care? Is the possible loss of a job worth seeing a football game? Especially in the days of the DVR!!!! Either do it or don't!!!!
lluvia
Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:25:00 AM
^sounds like you already know what you are going to do so just do it
pennjones
Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:28:00 AM
i'm not going to get fired for it, so if worst comes to worst, i'll be working tonight. i don't have much time to fight it now. i just wanted to know if there's something i can do about it, since i'm the one that's correct with the policy this time
rfenst
Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:29:00 AM
9. Author: jackconrad

"To generalize without knowing the nature of a contract is not a smart policy, these things are situational and not Nationalized Policy."

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"What does your employee manual or union contract (if you have one) say about the number of days advance notice you must give?"

How could you consider this to be "generaliz[ed]"? Did you even read it?

He's not trying to bag-out during a community or other type of emergency. He didn't say there is no one else who can do his job. He didn't say he won't go in either.

Give the guy a break. At the very least, solely because he was professional enough to ask in advance and just probably needs to vent!

JadeRose
Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:31:00 AM
penn..I ain't slaggin you. If you're right, you're right. I will always "fight the man" when it is a justified argument. Is this one for you? If it is...**** em!! Enjoy the game.
rfenst
Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:32:00 AM
13. Author: pennjones

Make sure you have written documentation of: eligibility, timely request(s), denial(s) that violate the rules, and any aspect you feel were arbitrary.

Discuss this with your union, if you have one. Otherwise, see HR. Continue to be the dedicated employee who works even when he prefers not to!

pennjones
Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:42:00 AM
yeah i will. i'm not going to say f it and just not go in. tha'ts called a "no call, no show" even if i called and someone says i have to come in and i CAN get fired for that, which is not worth it for me. i'll probably end up at work tonight, i just think it's total bs
pennjones
Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:48:00 AM
and for those of you saying i'm not dedicated to my job, or i'm not responsible, my job is my families main form of income, and i would never do anything to jeopardize my family, so i will do whatever work says i have to. i'm just upset about the situation, and i did everything when i needed to, so i'm just upset with work for not sticking to their own policy.

and my patients will always be my number one priority. i've stayed late on my shift probably 3/4 of the times i work because my patients need something at the end of my shift or i was taking care of them and didn't get to my charts all night. most of the nurses i work with would do what they need to and leave the next shift with all the work that was left undone. i love doing what i do but this is the first day i've asked off for (for personal reasons, not sick reasons) in over a year, other than my wedding.

andytv
Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:52:00 AM
what rfenst said......check with HR.

JadeRose
Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:58:00 AM
"and for those of you saying i'm not dedicated to my job, or i'm not responsible"

I don't think anyone IS saying that, penn. "Do what you need to do" is, I think, what everybody (myself included) is saying.