I was gifted a cigar by my cigar connection guru and was told that it is a Padron second made with the PAM 1964 filler with a maduro wrapper. It is box pressed and without label. He mentioned that they will be on the market later this year and I was wondering if anyone else has heard this or not?

RJ

I hope you didn't ever give this person real money in exchange for cigars. Fake cigar experts are as common in most parts as fake isoms.

I wouldn't believe a cigar was a Padron second unless I heard it directly from a member of the Padron family after they signed and notarized a Title 18 (this is true under penalty of perjury bla bla bla) statement and passed a sobriety test.

never heard of PAM seconds.

LMK what you think after you smoke it.

It sounds like the "fuma" which is the Padron 2nd but that is not box pressed. Fuma is the "Miami only" pig-tailed cigar that is now available nationwide. I have always liked these but I could never find them. I remember people on this board saying there was no such cigar. I just picked up five to see if they are still good. A local retailer has them for $1.99/39.00 a box Yum!

GT

GT, email me if you would?

dave97402 at hotmail.com

I believe the cigar you are describing is a short filler cigar. Since the term "seconds" is not precisely defined it might be possible to use the term "second" in that way. For example there is a short filler El Credito that some choose to call a second of LGC. I think that is a rather imprecise use of language particularly since there are some long filler El Creditos (available at CI, btw). I like CI's approach in calling such cigars "similar to" rather than calling them seconds. I would hope a "guru" would add equal precision to their definition.

GT, I'd love some info on those Fumas.

Thanks,

chris

ummmm....that would be:

clittleATrochesterDOTrrDOTcom

My local also has been carring the fumas but I haven't tried them. They only appear to come in a "panatela" size... I am more a toro or robusto...

Cheers,

The Fumas are a far cry from a PAM 64 ... some people like them, but personally, I wouldn't waste my time or money on them ... no mater how cheap.

I'll bring up the 'Picture Post' I had posted awhile back ...

Bleeech,

Fumas.

3000 maddie

YUMMM

As good as a PAM No

But mmmmm mmmmmmm good.

Just don't bid past CI retail. I like them to round out an order and save on shipping.

Later

Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)

Padron is a brand that I adore above all others (including Fuente and ISOMS). I'm a BIG fan of Nicaraguan tobacco and Padron is definitive of Nic tobacco and always consistent. That being said...

Regarding these Padron Fumas, they are great smokes. I've smoked a box of them already. If you are adverse to smoking something less than a long-filler cigar, then these are not for you (you f'n snob! 😉 ) .

I expected them to be terrible because I've heard awful things about this cigar from some people on newsgroups and in cigar shops, but I was really surprised when I sparked one up and enjoyed it greatly. I sparked another to make sure it was not a fluke, and after 26 or so tries, I've yet to find a bad one.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, so if you don't like them, then that's more for me.

Still lurking,

heg

btw, welcome back JJ 🙂