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Friday, March 27, 2009 7:35:00 PM
03/27/2009 3:55:08 PM

By DAVID BAUDER AP Television Writer

CNN is poised to finish March third in the prime-time weeknight ratings behind Fox News Channel and MSNBC, the first time this has ever happened for the channel that pioneered the cable news genre nearly three decades ago.

CNN says its overall business is healthy and it is not straying from its straight news path. But it is suffering more audience erosion than its rivals since the peak days of the presidential election, further proof that the opinionated prime-time shows on Fox and MSNBC have greater audience loyalty.

CNN's weekday prime-time ratings are relatively flat compared to last year during the primary campaign, up 1 percent from March 2008, according to Nielsen Media Research. Fox's ratings have jumped 30 percent and MSNBC, the new No. 2, is up 24 percent. The biggest growth in cable news is for CNN's partner, HLN, formerly Headline News, which is up 62 percent.

Fox remains on a mountain above its two closest competitors, with its prime-time audience in March more than that of MSNBC and CNN combined. "The O'Reilly Factor" has done particularly well, keeping more of its postelection audience than anything else on CNN and MSNBC.

Through Wednesday, Fox was averaging 2.73 million prime-time viewers in March. MSNBC had 1.16 million and CNN had 1.14 million. The March ratings period ends Friday, and it's doubtful CNN will be able to overcome MSNBC.

"The fact that one network may have eked out a slight edge in one small slice of the overall business really doesn't say much of anything," Jon Klein, CNN U.S. president, said on Friday. "It's more clear than ever, given the way that our competitors have positioned themselves, that CNN has positioned itself as the real news network."

Relying on news, rather than opinion, leaves CNN more susceptible to higher ratings peaks during big stories and lower valleys in routine times. Yet it's hard to consider the present _ new president, economic turmoil and two wars _ a slow news period.

CNN's ratings news "is very significant," said Frank Sesno, a former CNN Washington bureau chief and now a professor at George Washington University. "This is a big problem."

More significant is what CNN's ratings problems mean coupled with the daily drumbeat of layoffs in the newspaper industry, he said. With people more interested in hearing things through an ideological prism as a form of entertainment, it diminishes the value of independent voices giving straight news.

"It's getting harder to do real journalism on television," Sesno said. "This is `man the ideological barricades.'"

Fox is ready to start a new venture Monday, "The Fox Nation," which it bills as an online community that believes in "your right to express your views, your values, your voice." Fox representatives would not immediately return a call for comment.

The most problematic part of CNN's prime-time schedule is Campbell Brown's 8 p.m. show, up against O'Reilly and MSNBC's Keith Olbermann. Brown's audience is smaller than any prime-time show on the three networks, and beneath Nancy Grace's crime hour on Headline News.

Brown leaves for a six-to-eight week maternity leave following Friday's show, and will be replaced temporarily by Roland Martin. Klein said Brown's show isn't in any danger, noting that it took years for Olbermann and O'Reilly to build their audiences and Brown has been in her job for a year.

There's been no talk of moving Grace to CNN, he said. Having Grace's crime-oriented show on Headline News allows CNN to keep its focus on being a news network, he said.

MSNBC's Rachel Maddow is a close third to Larry King, and both are beaten handily by Sean Hannity's new Fox solo show. At the 10 p.m. hour, a rerun of the show Olbermann did two hours earlier has been doing surprisingly well against CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360," leading MSNBC to at least temporarily put on hold any development of a new live show then.

MSNBC chief executive Phil Griffin said the prime-time ratings are an affirmation of the network's decision to go liberal with Olbermann and Maddow. But he also said it pointed to problems at his rival.

"They've got the best brand in news," he said. "CNN, that's better than anybody. But you've got to deliver on that _ and they're not. It's a hollow promise."

He compared CNN to ESPN, which started at the same time, saying that, while ESPN has evolved aggressively and remained the leader in sports, CNN hasn't. Their evening lineup of Lou Dobbs, Brown, King and Cooper lacks any consistency or flow, he said.

"What do they stand for?" he said. "That's their biggest challenge. CNN ain't what it used to be, and that has given us an opening because we stand for something and they don't."

Klein dismissed Griffin, noting CNN is beating MSNBC handily when the full day _ not just prime-time _ is taken into account. He said that for March and the year's first three months, it was CNN's best showing since 2003, when the Iraq War started.

CNN continues to have a greater reach and reputation than its rivals across all platforms, he said. When you measure viewership across the full day _ not just prime time _ CNN has a comfortable lead over MSNBC.

"When you have other so-called news networks ceding the field of journalism, we are happy to fill that void," Klein said. "It's working for us."

JonR

dadz
Friday, March 27, 2009 7:40:00 PM
CliffNotes version...plz
jackconrad
Friday, March 27, 2009 9:23:00 PM
Megan babay !
DrMaddVibe
Friday, March 27, 2009 9:24:00 PM
dpnewell
Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:05:00 AM
But, but, the right is dead. CBS, ABC and NBC told me so.
JDELLLL
Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:19:00 AM
That article implies that CNN is not opinionated like the other 2. My observation has been that they're blatantly patently liberal. Their typical panel is 90% liberal discussing such subjects as "is national healthcare a wonderful idea or merely great?".
RICKAMAVEN
Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:34:00 AM
6. Author: JDELLLL

the issue of health care for every american started with harry truman.

no president has been able to get anything done.

obama will.

daveincincy
Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:38:00 AM
^

"obama will"

LOL...we'll see how that works out for you senior citizens...and the rest of us.

JDELLLL
Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:43:00 AM
#7. I hope you're WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. All he's going to do is mess it up for all of us. All the freeloaders will clog the system since there still won't be any more doctors, etc. and everyone will have to wait months for an appointment and hours upon hours to actually get in. And you can spend all that time rubbing elbows with the scum of society.
Mandoman
Saturday, March 28, 2009 10:06:00 AM
I'm just curious. Except for a few months, while looking for a job after layoffs (even then, I was responsible for my own health care), I've been constantly employed for over 35 years. All this time, I have provided health care for me and my family. It can be claimed that my during my career in the Navy that the care was provided by the Government. That was part of the contract.Since retirement, my training and experience has enabled me to find decent employment that pays fairly well. I am still responsible for my and my family's health care. Why should I have to pay for someone else's?

Universal health care takes my tax money - and believe me, I pay plenty - and gives it to other people. And as shown in other countries where it is in force, that health care can be and is rationed. I could cite examples, but a quick internet search will provide all you need.

By law, in this country, no one is turned away because of the inability to pay. Because of this, the cost of my insurance is higher. For medical providers to recoup their losses due to this care, they charge those who can pay (either via insurance or not) more. The costs have also risen because of skyrocketing malpractice insurance premiums. When a jury - or judge - awards $75M or more in theses cases, who do you think actually pays? We do through our own higher premiums. All costs - whether taxes, increased costs for the provider, free care - are passed along to the folks who can pay. Putting the government in charge and expecting bureaucrats to be efficient is like pissing in the wind, it feels good initially, but it all rains back on you in the end. Do we really want some government body, who's eye is on a budget, deciding what care we need and/or deserve? In the long run, we will pay more, higher taxes, long wait times for services, and as shown in England and Canada to name a couple, denial of services or medicines. (Again, a search will disclose numerous examples)

big chief
Saturday, March 28, 2009 11:09:00 AM
What!!?? This is an outrage!! You people actually expect others to be responsible for their OWN GADDAM HEALTHCARE?? Even if they don't want to??

It's much easier to force some to pay for others than it is to force others to be responsible, haven't you learned that?

This is democracy in action!

BAH!

JonR
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Saturday, March 28, 2009 11:25:00 AM
"It’s much easier to force some to pay for others than it is to force others to be responsible, haven’t you learned that?

This is democracy in action!"

The messiah cheesing obama, reed, frank, and pelosi way! Don't f**k with the obama zombies!

LMAO!

JonR

MACS
Saturday, March 28, 2009 12:03:00 PM
Mando - agreed.

I'm retired and I have a job that helps with the healthcare costs as well.

WTF ever happened to personal responsibility?

Whistlebritches
Saturday, March 28, 2009 12:23:00 PM
^#7

"obama will."

GOD I hope you're wrong Rick.I pray every day for Obama's FAILURE.Every piece of his SOCIALIST agenda that fails is good for a REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC that truly believes in personal responsibility and rugged individualism.

Obama's Failure=America's VICTORY

Ron

donutboy2000
Saturday, March 28, 2009 8:40:00 PM
#7

How does he pay for it? Maybe he should cut your social security check in half?

Double D
Saturday, March 28, 2009 8:48:00 PM
I can't figure out if RICKAMAVEN has forgotten to take his meds, or if he's OD'd on them.

DD©

chiefburg
Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:00:00 PM
#13 - Personal responsibility is not part of the liberal agenda. The liberal agenda states that all property is community property and those that have should provide for those who don't have via confiscation by the government. Their entire agenda is designed to make citizens more dependent upon the government and less dependent on themselves.

The latest edition of Fast Company magazine has layed out what Obama should be doing. Here it is:

- Raise gas to $4 per gallon to match the rest of the world. Also, they believe that $4 gas will force people to drive less and develop other means of conveyance.

- Nationalize health care

- Buy electric autos

- Put a cap on carbon by regulating petrol

- Institute a "pay by the mile" system and charge people for the number of miles driven

- Cash for Clunkers: Give people money to trade their cars for more efficient cars

- Fake a bankruptcy: The industry needs to go through a restructuring. A legal bankruptcy could be long and messy. A prepackaged bankruptcy where the process is expedited and structural changes are negotiated ahead of time would be the best outcome.

Yep, that's kind of the plan. . .

Double D
Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:15:00 PM
CABLE NEWS RACE

THU., MARCH 26, 2009

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,420,000

FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,987,000

FOXNEWS BECK 2,374,000

FOXNEWS GRETA 2,160,000

FOXNEWS BAIER 1,940,000

FOXNEWS SHEP 1,888,000

MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,322,000

CNNHN GRACE 1,300,000

MSNBC MADDOW 1,208,000

CNN KING 1,144,000

CNN COOPER 1,118,000

http://www.drudgereport.com/ 

DD®

JDELLLL
Sunday, March 29, 2009 6:25:00 AM
i'm sure Rick has some irrational explanation for why Fox News kicks ass.
dpnewell
Sunday, March 29, 2009 6:37:00 AM
^Oh that's easy. If you're not an Obamatron, then you're an unthinking redneck, who watches Fox for your daily dose of propaganda.