Gene363
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Monday, April 13, 2009 3:28:00 PM
President Obama embraces Bush's warrant less wiretapping program. The Electronic Frontier Foundation thinks Obama DOJ's arguments are worse than thos of the Bush administration.

Well how about that!

"THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAS EMBRACED BUSH'S POSITION ON WARANTLESS WIRETAPPING, and goes one step further than the previous administration. In a motion to dismiss Jewel v. NSA, the Obama Administration's Department of Justice (DOJ) made two deeply troubling arguments.

First, they argued, exactly as the Bush Administration did on countless occasions, that the state secrets privilege requires the court to dismiss the issue out of hand. They asserted that simply allowing the case to continue "would cause exceptionally grave harm to national security." As in the past, this is a blatant ploy to dismiss the litigation without allowing the courts to consider the evidence.

Second, the DOJ claimed that the U.S. Government is completely immune from litigation for illegal spying because the USA PATRIOT Act renders the U.S. immune from suit under the two remaining key federal surveillance laws: the Wiretap Act and the Stored Communications Act. This is a radical assertion that is utterly unprecedented. No one not the White House, not the Justice Department, not any member of Congress, and not the Bush Administration -- has ever interpreted the law this way.

This isn't change we can believe in. This is change for the worse."

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/obama-doj-worse-than-bush 

teelio
Monday, April 13, 2009 3:34:00 PM
I'm an Obama supporter who is disgusted by this.
Gene363
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Monday, April 13, 2009 3:46:00 PM
The view of reality from inside the Oval Office is abundantly different from that of a Presidential candidate.
DrMaddVibe
Monday, April 13, 2009 3:48:00 PM
There will be bamboozling!

jpotts
Monday, April 13, 2009 3:49:00 PM
{sarcasm: on}

Gosh. I am so surprised.

{sarcasm: off}

VaMtnMan
Monday, April 13, 2009 3:52:00 PM
Never saw this coming.

Who would have "Thunk It".

LOL

IcyGeddon
Monday, April 13, 2009 3:54:00 PM
Not surprised but very disappointed. No matter who we elect, they seem to not care very much about the constitution.
jojoc
Monday, April 13, 2009 3:55:00 PM
has there ever been a president that actually reduced the power of the office? Every president takes the powers they inherit and expand upon them. it is the nature of the beast.
tailgater
Monday, April 13, 2009 3:55:00 PM
He must have taken the Hypocritic Oath during his inaguration...
DrMaddVibe
Monday, April 13, 2009 3:57:00 PM
No, because that's to uphold and preserve life...he already said THAT was above his pay grade!
Whistlebritches
Monday, April 13, 2009 3:59:00 PM
and they complained that the Bush Administration was going too far.This my friends is FASCISM IN FULL BLOOM..........but then again I TOLD YA SO!!!!!!

Ron

MCAddict
Monday, April 13, 2009 10:37:00 PM
"...nature of the beast." Yeah, and expanding exponentially day by day. This doesn't surprise me a bit. All the tools were in place for the Dems to use from Homeland Security and the war on terror. They bitched about it for eight years...until they came into power.

Fun times ahead.

teelio
Monday, April 13, 2009 10:47:00 PM
I was against it under Bush. And I'm against it under Obama.

That's what I get for being an independent.

HockeyDad
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 4:01:00 AM
^this is what you get......plus an odd clicking noise on your phone whenever you place a call.
Charlie
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 4:04:00 AM
13. Author: teelio Date: 04/14/2009 02:47 AM Reply

I was against it under Bush. And I’m against it under Obama.

That’s what I get for being an independent.

Tough to be an independent or other party person nowdays....just why are you against this important part of the Patriot Act?

Charlie

HockeyDad
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 4:08:00 AM
Any true small-government conservative would be against warrantless wiretapping because it will be just a matter of time before every call in the USA will be tapped, recorded, and run through computer-operated "key word filters".

...Just like internets BBs and forums.

borndead1
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 4:27:00 AM
Bush set the ball and Obama is spiking it.
HockeyDad
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 4:35:00 AM
It kinda puts a bit of a tarnish on the whole "Hope & Change" concept.
JonR
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 5:19:00 AM
Is it just me or what, I think cheesing obama's skin is getting whiter and he is starting to speak with a Texas drawl. Take away the teleprompter and wa-la George W. Bush.

ROTFLMAO!

JonR

jackconrad
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 5:21:00 AM
()XYZ()

(=’.’=) Dabm dat be cool..

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