http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article6122757.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=2015164 

Great application of incredible technology.

Yeah...since they'll be murdered anyway, might as well get some use from the corpse.

What next, The Gas Chambers ?

I think we should just harvest eyeballs and other organs from poor people. They're nearly as vulnerable as the unborn - it should be pretty easy to pull off.

Plus they can't count and prolly won't even miss them.

Hey guise? What happens to IVF embryos that are unused?

Haon, how dare you speak logically? Don't you know that REAL men angrily bloviate, regardless of facts?

As opposed to men like you who find the destruction of human life irrelevant.

I think we should just harvest organs from newborns, but only the fussy ones. Just think of the long-term benefits to the gene pool!

"As opposed to men like you who find the destruction of human life irrelevant.

I think we should just harvest organs from newborns, but only the fussy ones. Just think of the long-term benefits to the gene pool!"

As opposed to men like you, who view the suffering of fellow humans as completely irrelevant.

Bonus points for anyone who knows what totipotency means.

Not irrelevant, but you don't alleviate suffering by destroying human life. Once upon a time we thought the medical research performed by the Nazis was abhorrent.

Whew, then it's a good thing that continuing stem cell lines from totipotent cell cultures isn't destroying human life.

Human development begins when a sperm fertilizes an egg and creates a single totipotent cell. In the first hours after fertilization, this cell divides into identical totipotent cells. Approximately four days after fertilization and after several cycles of cell division, these totipotent cells begin to specialize.

Totipotent is as opposed to pluripotent and multipotent. Totipotent cells have total potential. They specialize into pluripotent cells that can give rise to most, but not all, of the tissues necessary for fetal development. Pluripotent cells undergo further specialization into multipotent cells that are committed to give rise to cells that have a particular function. For example, multipotent blood stem cells give rise to the red cells, white cells and platelets in the blood.

So, that's...

Embryonic Stem Cell Research - 1

Adult Stem Cell Reserach - 1,435.

Yeah. A real breakthrough all right.

...one trainwreck of a thread comming right up...

Working with those stem cell lines is equivalent to working with a corpse. The human life has already effectively been destroyed. That it was destroyed is the issue.

"The human life has already effectively been destroyed. That it was destroyed is the issue."

Er, no.

The issue is that you would rather see people suffer (like my grandmother, who suffers from MD) than see a group of infinately dividing cells continue to reproduce.

Who said anything about wanting to see someone suffer? Who said they wanted to see cells divide? I simply said that it's unconscionable to destroy human life in an attempt to alleviate suffering.

Re: # 9 . . .

Newborns ?!!?

Hell, use the Homeless, for crying out loud . . .

"Who said anything about wanting to see someone suffer? Who said they wanted to see cells divide? I simply said that it’s unconscionable to destroy human life in an attempt to alleviate suffering."

Since your defination of human life includes zygotes, a simple question: Do you think that IVF is murder?

Haon,

You sound like a freaking serial killer. You sure grandma is alive?

Gringo