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Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:31:00 AM
Statement of U.S. Senator Russ Feingold

Hearing on "Torture and the Office of Legal Counsel in the Bush Administration"

Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Administrative Oversight and the Courts

"This hearing is an important step in shedding light on one of the worst abuses of the past administration. Let me be perfectly clear. This so-called enhanced interrogation program was illegal. It was contrary to our national values. And it undermined our national security. Like Chairman Whitehouse, I am a member of the Intelligence Committee. Nothing I have seen – including the two documents to which former Vice President Cheney has repeatedly referred – indicates that the torture techniques authorized by the last administration were necessary, or that they were the best way to get information out of detainees. The former vice president is misleading the American people when he says otherwise.

"Mr. Chairman, I support further declassifications, including of the rest of the Justice Department memos and letters on this program, the Inspector General report, and the work of the Intelligence Committee, provided their release would not jeopardize national security. I have also sought the declassification of my own correspondence, which I sent to then-CIA Director Hayden, detailing my opposition to the program.

"While the revelations of the past month are uncomfortable for some, they are absolutely essential if this country is to return to the rule of law. I am pleased that members of the Judiciary Committee and the Intelligence Committee are moving forward to determine exactly what happened. I continue to believe an independent commission, as Chairman Leahy has proposed, is needed, so that we can finally understand and come to terms with this dark chapter in our recent history."

big chief
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:48:00 AM
so, Fuzz, I'm getting the feeling you don't support water-boarding
donutboy2000
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 11:48:00 AM
WASHINGTON (AFP) — US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi -- a key ally of President Barack Obama -- has come under fire over whether she has long known about harsh interrogation tactics used in George W. Bush's "war on terror."

"She was briefed on it and if she felt it was wrong she should have acted," Senator John McCain -- the losing 2008 Republican presidential nominee -- told reporters on Tuesday.

Most of the criticism has focused on why, if briefed, Pelosi did not do more to stop the use of water-boarding, or simulated drowning, a technique many say amounts to torture.

fishinguitarman
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 11:50:00 AM
Of course she knew...She's got her nose in EVERYTHING!!!
FuzzNJ
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Wednesday, May 13, 2009 11:53:00 AM
Though Pelosi didn't enact or pursue these policies, if she or any other Democrat is found to be complicit in torture policy being carried out by the United States then they should be subject to the same scrutiny and punishment under the law.
DrMaddVibe
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:07:00 PM
WATERBOARD PELOSI TWICE!
HockeyDad
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:14:00 PM
Pelosi, Reid, and Biden are all complicit in a sanctioned terror campaign. All should be impeached and tried for crimes against humanity. We'll need to find out President Obama's role as well since he may have been "present".

Anyone who has been in congress for more than just a few years should be charged with complicity, duplicity, and synchronicity.

Once we have finished flushing the whole lot of them, we can begin the process of discussing reparations to the terrorists.

jpotts
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:23:00 PM
Yeah, Russ Feingold is a great guy to refer to when it comes to politics and legal issues.

I seem to remember he it one of the guys who "fixed" campaign finance reform.

(rolls eyes)

jpotts
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:23:00 PM
Only a politician would think that pouring water all over someone's face is actually a crime.
DrafterX
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:23:00 PM
'reparations to the terrorists.'

^ 40 acres and a mule..??

HockeyDad
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:25:00 PM
^I was thinking maybe Michigan or New Jersey. ...Or the Hamptons.
jpotts
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:33:00 PM
11. Author: HockeyDad Date: 05/13/2009 04:25 PM Reply

^I was thinking maybe Michigan or New Jersey. ...Or the Hamptons.

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Giving the terrorists Michigan?

That's just plain cruel.

jpotts
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:34:00 PM
Then again, half of them have probably relocated here already.
pacman357
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:18:00 PM
#8 You mean the McCain-Feingold bill? McCain ring a bell? John McCain? Senator from Arizona, ran for president last year?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipartisan_Campaign_Reform_Act 

BTW, here's the text of the bill if you're up for a little light reading:

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-107publ155/html/PLAW-107publ155.htm 

HockeyDad
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:26:00 PM
McCain? The name doesn't ring a bell. Nope, never heard of him.
teedubbya
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:41:00 PM
McCain is a liberal and should leave the party
jojoc
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:42:00 PM
there's a party? where?

why was I not invited?

teedubbya
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:45:00 PM
because you are not pure enough
jpotts
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:58:00 PM
14. Author: pacman357 Date: 05/13/2009 07:18 PM Reply

#8 You mean the McCain-Feingold bill? McCain ring a bell? John McCain? Senator from Arizona, ran for president last year?

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McCain was one of the reasons I was willing to vote for Hillary. He's just as bad as Feingold.

pacman357
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 4:55:00 PM
#19 OK, you're being consistent. I just didn't see you mention McCain whilst rolling your eyes.