Pakistani Army captures Mingora

"...One of the key areas captured by the army included the central plaza known as Green Square. Under the Taliban, it had gained notoriety as "Slaughter Square." Beheaded bodies - often of people accused of spying or of un-Islamic behavior - were thrown in the square to intimidate residents..."

Waterboarding is not torture. It most certainly is very unpleasant, even harsh, but it is not physically harmful.

Every soldier who enters the US Army must go through the Gas Chamber. It is most certainly unpleasant, but it is not physically harmful. Can we put Terrorists in a Gas Chamber for interrogation? As a former Training Company Commander at Fort Benning, I went through the Gas chamber at least a hundred times (I never let trainees experience anything harsh without seeing their commander there with them...and, no, I never wore a gas mask in the gas chamber. It was just a personal thing with me.) Can something we force on our troops be torture? Torture, at least in my mind, is more than just harsh and unpleasant, it is physically harmful with a lasting effect, such as cutting off body parts, or disfigurement.

Just something to remember, the Terrorist have no US POWs alive. Every POW has been killed and every recovered POW body showed signs of extreme torture.

Read the beginning paragraph again. This is how they deal with anyone who opposes them, not just Americans.

...and another question, how can anyone confuse Terrorists with Islam, or any aspect of God? They are obviously not doing God's work. So treat them as you would any other minion of Hell. Too bad American censors do not let Americans see the actual handiwork of these people. I think it might change the mindset of Americans. I know it changed mine.

Torture has been a big part of the advancement of civilized society........I see no need to stop NOW!!!

You disagree with the messiah?

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama said Wednesday night that waterboarding authorized by former President George W. Bush was torture and that the information it gained from terror suspects could have been obtained by other means. AP

Messiah...hmmm...I think what they really mean is that Obama is J.C. reborn.

...only in this case, it's JIMMY CARTER come again.

God forbid, but its going to take another "man made catastrophe" for people to wake up. Especially one that could have easily and promptly been averted by an "enhanced interrogation technique."

May God have mercy.

Neo, amen.

However, any wakeup will be short lived, and poisoned by special interests.

^ Yep, 'fraid yer right...

RE#5,

My God does not condone, any kind of violence toward another sinner. If yours does, I feel pity for your soul.

Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)

In dunno, my God condoned Jesus whipping the money changers.

I also seem to remember a bunch of stuff in Revelations that seems a little on the harsh side.

There there is the conquest of the Holy Land we could discuss...

Homebrew: That's why I say "God forbid" that it should happen. But evil occurs constantly in a world where men's "free will" is hopelessly corrupted by sin. (I.e., hopeless until the soul is regenerated by the Holy Spirit). I do not wish for another 911-class of terrorist attack, to "teach a lesson."

God certainly does not condone sin. That is why there is Hell. The Bible says the guilty will not go unpunished, either now and/or later.

Jpotts: That is why there is "righteous indignation" where goodness and justice are defended, and just war is waged against tyranny and evil.

5. Author: neopuritan

911 could possibly have been averted had bush read the memo and paid attention to the intel that said "ben laden planning a strike on the american soil.

Rick, 911 could also have been averted if CLINTON had not let bin Laden (sp?) loose from his firm grasp during his watch...

Bill Clinton

12. Author: neopuritan

i have heard that repeated several times. any documentation to that much used excuse for bush going on vacation.

Hey Rickamaven, how does it feel knowing Obama just sent Panetta to Israel to tell them he won't stop Iran from building nukes?

It was in the Israeli newspapers yesterday.

11. Author: RICKAMAVEN

911 could possibly have been averted had bush read the memo and paid attention to the intel that said "ben laden planning a strike on the american soil.

^ Okay... let's say he got the alleged memo and read it, discussed it, planned whatever.... how could he have prevented multiple planes being hijacked with no weapons to speak of.... you would have had to be able to read the terrorists minds to know what was going down that day...

but again, it's so convienient to blame Bush... did the alleged memo give a date, time and detailed plans..??

11. Author: RICKAMAVEN Date: 05/26/2009 09:44 AM Reply

5. Author: neopuritan

911 could possibly have been averted had bush read the memo and paid attention to the intel that said "ben laden planning a strike on the american soil.

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Yes. And I'm sure that deaths via tornados can be avoided if weathermen just use clarvoiance to know when, where, and how a tornado will strike.

I think everybody should torture jpotts

15. Author: GreenWolf70

when the holocaust was happening, most of the intel for the allied forces knew about the mass extermination and did nothing.

in 1939 the spirit of st louis sailed around the world with a cargo of refu8ge jews trying to get out of germany before they were murdered and burnt in the ovens. no country in the world including the USA would let them land, they sailed back to germany to their deaths.

when begin said "never again" he meant that never again would that happen, never again would the jews expect the world to help them.

if israel knows that iran is capable of dropping a bomb capable of destroying the country, rest assured, israel will take action.

16. Author: DrafterX

if he cared, he could have read the briefings about arab

students taking flying instruction, but not landing instructions. the information was available.

the fbi could have followed up and it might have been prevented. bush did nothing. i doubt that he even wanted the job as president, too much to think about.